US murder rate close to historic lows.

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The mistake you're making is assuming that I gave kudos to Thump's post because of the per capita murder rate comment (more on that in a moment). My agreement with Thump in that post was the more substantive "...let not the perfect be the enemy of the good. Simply because a law doesn't eliminate all acts it outlaws doesn't mean that law should be stricken."

The identified problem is mass murders with guns, not murder in general. Invoking general murder and violent crime statistics is a red herring as its only purpose is to distract from the original problem. The only position you can possible be taking is that since the general per capita murder statistics are relatively low in global comparisons is that there isn't really a problem to be resolved.

You are also wanting it both ways. You figuratively hug up to friends and family of victims and the population in general with the 'too soon to talk about it' and 'people are politicizing a tragedy' schtick; however, obfuscating the problem and not addressing it is nothing more than a giant 'fuck off and quit whining' to the same when you pretend there isn't a problem to be solved at such time you think it's appropriate to have the discussion.

Here is the thing, compared with murder in general, mass shootings that get brought up here all the time are a drop in the bucket. What percentage of murders in the US are a result of this? There is never a thread about inner-city violence, never a thread about drug violence, never a thread about the link of alcohol to violence. It's all about these mass shootings and it's very frustrating to watch on here. That's why I felt the need to point out that despite what people seem to imply all the time, we live in the safest time in the history of our country. Also I do think that it is a positive thing that we have the lowest murder rate in our history and that positivity should be pointed out. Of course people who want a change is policy are never quick to point out positive things like this.