RE: Has the Atheism vs. Theism debate played it's course?
May 26, 2016 at 2:01 am
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2016 at 2:02 am by robvalue.)
(May 25, 2016 at 3:55 pm)Lek Wrote: I came into this forum fairly naive about my ability to convince someone to believe in God and christianity through a scientific or historical method. I came to the realization that there is no scientific proof for or against God, so we just come away from the argument with no conclusion. As far as history shows, I believe much of the new testament to be written by eyewitnesses, which is backed by many, but not all historians. Atheists choose to believe those who do not accept my conclusion. I've discussed scientific evidence that points to the need for a creator, but an atheist will say that it could be many things besides God. I've come to be able to view and be sympathetic to both sides of the argument. I've even come to accept that we have developed through an evolutionary process.
I've studied the evidence and I still believe in God and see him in creation. I also perceive him to be at work in my life. I do believe that the universe was designed by God and that Jesus walked the earth and did what the bible says he did. I trust the witnesses. If I am in conversation with someone who is an atheist or isn't a christian, the way I talk will allow that person to know that I'm a christian. Sometimes the person wants to get into that and other times they don't, in which case we don't go there. For now, I don't think that there is much value in the scientific debate since christians can't scientifically prove God and christians and the bible are compatible. I guess it can point out that atheists tend to accept certain conclusions that are not scientifically verifiable, i.e., abiogenesis, but it's still not proving God.
I do think that a respectable debate is very helpful. I look at participating in these forums is one of the best things that ever happened to me. It's opened me up to the logical arguments against christianity and made me thoroughly assess my reasons for believing. It's also made me more sympathetic towards those who believe differently than myself. Sometimes we don't look at each other as real people.
I agree with the sentiments, good post
I won't go through and analyse what you've said as we've done it all before. But I think your general outlook on atheism vs theism is pretty good. You are one of the few theists I have seen develop themselves during their time here.
I always look at everyone like a real person, which is why I wish theists would engage us more in topics outside of theistic head-bashing. Sadly very few here do.
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