(January 7, 2017 at 3:40 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Actually, I can, and will, comment on any one incident, and limit my scope of conversation as a result, as I please. Look at the scattershot nature of your posting in this thread, and ask yourself how successful your approach is at advancing the discussion and perhaps even changing minds.
You can all you want. I am talking math and logic and averages. You not liking me being blunt about it well, too bad. If minorities or their supporters always tried library language to bring attention to a problem we would still have slaves.
No it is not "scattered" FYI.
Our lives overlap as a society no matter what, no matter what the discussion is about, and OUR government is how we try to resolve issues and make laws. Be the discussion about Religion, or politics or economic views those things overlap and those advocates, no matter the position, have influence on OUR LAWS that we all end up living under. It is impossible to separate those competing ideas from the fact the overlap still ends up as an attempt to influence our government.
If you rightfully want to treat individuals as such, you can't make it outright that simplistic. Understanding the total averages can and will lead more people to do just that, but right now, our collective climate is still stuck ignoring the roots of our social ills and racial divisions and that still has an affect on us even if we personally want that not to be true, it is. Blacks understand this, a growing portion of whites are growing to understand this, but we still have a a small minority of far right nuts still managing to convince enough non bigoted whites to get focused on economics to the point without realizing it they ARE being held hostage too.
It is well intended to want to treat individuals as such. But it can only be done by understanding our past history and current inequality that still exists.
