(April 20, 2017 at 1:52 pm)wallym Wrote: It's the same with immigration. A lot of us fairly well off people (i'm not necessarily including anyone here in this, as I don't know anyones situation) have our big debate about whether or not we let the Mexicans come in and cut our lawn and pick fruit for us. But when it's all said and done, the kids who don't speak english aren't going to my kids school. The bad hombres aren't in my city. The uninsured people aren't filling up my emergency room.I suppose that must be a regional experience? I grew up in south and central florida. We wealthy people didn't have any such debate..and still don't. We seek out mexicans for lawn work..and particularly for picking fruit (lol). I ended up moving, but I'm still in ag - and I'm surrounded by wealthy horse breeders and cow-calf operations..interspersed with relatively poorer pockets of pasture, tobacco, grain, and mixed vegetable production. The wealthy here seem uniformly in favor of mexican labor, and the poorer operators couldn't survive without it. I suppose you get the odd loudmouth with an opinion, a bad field boss. But by and large, there is no debate among the well-to-do or the operators as to whether or not mexican labor is a-ok. That happens, largely, within another demographic.
The kids who don't speak murican were in my schools, both public and private - choked with them, actually - mostly cubans in south florida, and mexicans in central florida. They're here too. A significant number of my neighbors, including my nearest, are a mixed status family. Their children go to school with my children. I went to school, as a child, with them. The bad hombres, such as they are....were there too. My childhood friend growing up, who spent most of his childhood at my grandmothers with me due to a turbulent period in the homelife (same reason I was there) was just convicted of murdering his side-piece and trying to feed her body to gators...to keep his wife from finding out about their continued affair...that he had impregnated her, that he was prostituting her, as they dealt crack. This, btw, was out in the country...not the city. Next level shit, lol. He was the whitest cuban you'd ever meet (not as in a high yellow.l..but as in he grew up with my racist grandmother raising him like she raised me, just a point of interest about those "bad hombres" I've known, lol.
Our hospitals were similarly flooded, as would be expected. They are here as well, even though this is a far, far less hispanic area - because those guys don't have the treatment access available to them that their white peers do.
Quote:It goes along with an idea in the other thread about the College kids. It's all philosophy to them. There are no consequences or rewards. Regardless of what happens, they'll probably at least get an okay job and live an okay life no matter who is president. I think there is danger in losing sight of reality when people who don't have any skin in the game are the one's driving the political discourse.Well, that, or we all have skin in the american game?
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