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How Can I Get Saved?
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How Can I Get Saved?
Christian apologist say that the bible is not a science tome or a history book. Thus all that really matter are the salvific passages. Believe them and leave the rest alone.

The problem with that is the bible is just as equivocal about salvation as anything else. Today, so-called evangelical Christians go with Paul and ignore or dismiss all other salvific biblical writings.

But suppose Paul is wrong and the others are right? Suppose you get to the pearly gates and have to explain why you thought Paul knew more about salvation than Jesus himself?

Which of the following passages tells us what we really need to do to be saved.

“Micah 6:7, 8” Wrote:7 Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? 8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

But Jesus added to this requirement

”Matthew 19:16, 17b” Wrote:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17…but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

I hear Christians arguing that they were still under the old covenant. The speaker in Micah was too and Paul precludes separate means of salvation under the law for the Jews.

”Galatians 2:16” Wrote:Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Paul may have believed in Christ, but he didn’t believe Christ. To the best of my knowledge Jews are flesh, so why would Jesus tell them they could be saved by keeping the commandments?
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How Can I Get Saved? - by Rhondazvous - June 11, 2017 at 9:13 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Foxaèr - June 11, 2017 at 9:19 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by brewer - June 11, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Neo-Scholastic - June 11, 2017 at 12:20 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Rhondazvous - June 11, 2017 at 1:20 pm
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RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by brewer - June 11, 2017 at 9:09 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Minimalist - June 11, 2017 at 3:48 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Anomalocaris - June 12, 2017 at 2:21 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Aliza - June 11, 2017 at 5:47 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Rhondazvous - June 11, 2017 at 7:13 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Cyberman - June 11, 2017 at 5:49 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by chimp3 - June 11, 2017 at 7:37 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Cyberman - June 11, 2017 at 8:57 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by The Valkyrie - June 11, 2017 at 9:07 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Cyberman - June 12, 2017 at 12:08 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Rhondazvous - June 12, 2017 at 1:03 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Anomalocaris - June 12, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by John V - June 12, 2017 at 10:01 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by John V - June 13, 2017 at 6:15 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Succubus - June 14, 2017 at 9:45 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by vorlon13 - June 14, 2017 at 10:01 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Drich - June 12, 2017 at 10:04 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Rhondazvous - June 12, 2017 at 1:17 pm
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RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Cyberman - June 12, 2017 at 1:08 pm
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RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Rhondazvous - June 12, 2017 at 2:17 pm
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RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Rhondazvous - June 12, 2017 at 9:12 pm
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RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by ignoramus - June 13, 2017 at 7:16 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Drich - June 14, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Minimalist - June 13, 2017 at 7:23 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by vorlon13 - June 13, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Nay_Sayer - June 13, 2017 at 10:19 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by vorlon13 - June 14, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Drich - June 15, 2017 at 8:45 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by vorlon13 - June 15, 2017 at 9:00 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Drich - June 15, 2017 at 9:33 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by vorlon13 - June 15, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by ignoramus - June 15, 2017 at 7:40 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by vorlon13 - June 15, 2017 at 7:48 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by ignoramus - June 15, 2017 at 7:51 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Lek - June 19, 2017 at 12:42 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Cyberman - June 19, 2017 at 12:44 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Ravenshire - June 25, 2017 at 2:32 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by vorlon13 - June 20, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Rhondazvous - June 20, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 25, 2017 at 12:39 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by ignoramus - June 25, 2017 at 12:59 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by vorlon13 - June 25, 2017 at 1:03 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by Cyberman - June 25, 2017 at 12:40 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by ignoramus - June 25, 2017 at 1:22 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by vorlon13 - June 25, 2017 at 1:23 am
RE: How Can I Get Saved? - by ignoramus - June 25, 2017 at 1:49 am

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