Obama, the Republican 5th Column?

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

If that's the question, count me among their number.

I don't approve of the band-aid that was slapped on the gushing wound that is our nation's broken health care system, whereupon our pseudo-liberal president declared it was "fixed" and then congratulated himself on the "historic accomplishment". The man must be double-jointed, the way he pats himself on the back so much.

Of course, my number would be added to a poll like this for conservatives to parade around. You have to look at the details of a poll. Of those "dissatisfied", you have to ask why. Too much or too little?

I can't disagree with this, but Conservatives take dissatisfaction with the healthcare bill to be the same as wanting no regulation of health insurance and pharmaceuticals and a complete repeal of the bill. Obama was right about one thing though, the one that was ultimately passed can be the skeleton of a much more comprehensive reform in the future, just as similar bills with medicaid and medicare have done in the past. As those systems were much smaller back in the day and have expanded greatly as time has marched on.

Still, I can't help but feel cheated that Obama is trying to compromise with a group of people utterly uninterested in compromise on top of an entire team of spineless and self-defeating senators and representatives in congress. It's a fool's errand.

Be that as it may, I feel no interest in removing something that was finally won despite no republican support that is altogether a good package.

Miskha -

You found one poll at one point in time out of months and months of polls saying the opposite of what you're going for and not even necessarily for all the same reasons. My team of polls have proven that people are far more interested in a much more comprehensive healthcare reform than we've gotten. You've proven that 60% of a 1000 people polled today are in favor of repealing healthcare.

There are 300 million people in the united states. I took ten polls just on the public option alone and all of them show that more people are in favor of a better healthcare bill than what we've gotten.

Your more recent poll doesn't overturn or disprove my polls nor does it prove that the majority of all Americans want Healthcare repealed. At best, it's an indicator of a general trend of opinion regarding one question among a small group of randomly chosen individuals.

In short, you haven't proven jack.

EDIT: IT also doesn't help your care since apparently, as Jasyn has pointed out, Rasmussen has proven to be leaning a little too far right.

Some interesting info about Rasmussen.

But the qualitative questions, in terms of their phrasing and so forth, are frequently skewed to give answers friendly toward GOP or conservative viewpoints. All of which is to say that his numbers are valuable. But they need to be read with that bias in mind.

Take them with a few very large grains of salt.

You probably think that losing 63 seats in the house was a flesh wound to the Dem party too?

Virtually every method of measuring data on public opinion has measured that the political climate was better this political season than the one in 1994 that allowed the republicans to take complete control over all of congress.
One election cycle later, the Democrats still control the senate and lost the house, where the republicans now hold a majority. Compare that to '94, when republicans performed much better with much less effort.
So, no, as a matter of fact, I'm not impressed at this win.