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Who killed Jesus?
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RE: Who killed Jesus?
(August 7, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Graufreud Wrote:
(August 7, 2018 at 11:40 am)SteveII Wrote: I have not figured you out yet. You start threads that are fairly juvenile--which is okay--you may be a juvenile. There is no attempt to actually think about your post in any kind of context. You just take random thoughts out of context and draw these quick conclusions that either a) have nothing to do with anything or b) are actually mischaracterizations of the belief. You don't have a firm grasp on what Christians actually believe yet you feel the compunction to start new threads constantly that criticize some aspect. It's almost as if you just want a bunch of people to agree with your point regardless if it is actually a good point. Well, if that is your goal you came to the right place. These people love straw man arguments and rarely will call you out on one. 

If that is not your goal, a good discussion practice is to present your opponents belief as honestly and generously as possible and then tell why you still think the belief is wrong or leads to some sort of problem. 

For instance, it is trivially easy to see that God did not kill his child. Jesus is God. So, there is no other way to see this other than God sacrificed himself. Additionally, did God sacrifice himself to show his love or was there a purpose to that sacrifice and that purpose showed his love? You mischaracterize two important points in one sentence. You are efficient!

For starters, have you read the article?

https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/who-killed-jesus

I actually did read the devotional. Do you have a point? You did not get that God "killed his/her child to show that he/she really loves you" from that. If you did, you have major reading comprehension issues. Go ahead--quote the verses that support your characterization. 

Quote: Secondly, why should I talk to a heretic?

LOL, a heretic! That would presuppose that you knew the beliefs of Christianity in the first place to compare them to my beliefs.  

You have a choice: 1) continue on as you have been and prove that you really are happy with your intellectually-stunted, straw-man errecting, red herring throwing, echo chamber, approval seeking, angry atheist shtick or 2) admit the truth--that you really don't understand the things you wish to criticize and try to lean something before spouting off nonsense.  I don't care which.
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Messages In This Thread
Who killed Jesus? - by Graufreud - August 7, 2018 at 5:15 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Foxaèr - August 7, 2018 at 5:17 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Fake Messiah - August 7, 2018 at 5:17 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Graufreud - August 7, 2018 at 5:49 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Fake Messiah - August 7, 2018 at 6:06 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Valkyrie - August 7, 2018 at 6:07 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2018 at 6:27 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by brewer - August 7, 2018 at 7:17 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Angrboda - August 7, 2018 at 7:28 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by brewer - August 7, 2018 at 10:17 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Chad32 - August 7, 2018 at 7:37 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Jehanne - August 7, 2018 at 7:55 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by RoadRunner79 - August 7, 2018 at 10:11 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by robvalue - August 7, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by vorlon13 - August 7, 2018 at 10:55 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by vulcanlogician - August 7, 2018 at 1:58 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by SteveII - August 7, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by SteveII - August 7, 2018 at 11:40 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Graufreud - August 7, 2018 at 12:34 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by SteveII - August 7, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Neo-Scholastic - August 7, 2018 at 1:42 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Graufreud - August 7, 2018 at 1:43 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by SteveII - August 7, 2018 at 1:54 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Angrboda - August 7, 2018 at 12:03 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 12:51 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Graufreud - August 7, 2018 at 12:56 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 7, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 1:05 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 7, 2018 at 1:28 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by downbeatplumb - August 7, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 1:44 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Valkyrie - August 7, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by downbeatplumb - August 7, 2018 at 1:48 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Valkyrie - August 7, 2018 at 1:50 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by vorlon13 - August 7, 2018 at 2:19 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 2:07 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Crossless2.0 - August 7, 2018 at 2:17 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Valkyrie - August 7, 2018 at 2:16 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 2:17 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Crossless2.0 - August 7, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by SteveII - August 7, 2018 at 2:22 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 2:24 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2018 at 2:38 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Valkyrie - August 7, 2018 at 2:44 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2018 at 7:27 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 7, 2018 at 2:46 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Crossless2.0 - August 7, 2018 at 3:01 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Crossless2.0 - August 7, 2018 at 3:07 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Joods - August 7, 2018 at 3:08 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 3:48 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Minimalist - August 7, 2018 at 4:04 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by The Valkyrie - August 7, 2018 at 7:57 pm
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by Graufreud - August 8, 2018 at 5:58 am
RE: Who killed Jesus? - by vorlon13 - August 8, 2018 at 9:32 am

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