RE: Does humanity deserve Corona?
March 26, 2020 at 3:15 pm
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2020 at 3:39 pm by WinterHold.)
(March 25, 2020 at 8:03 am)Grandizer Wrote:(March 21, 2020 at 11:04 am)WinterHold Wrote: You cry because Coronavirus is killing some thousands of you.
But why didn't you cry for Chinese Uighur Muslims butchered by the communist government?
Why didn't you cry for the Millions in Syria killed by Assad?
Why didn't you cry for Millions killed in Yemen by Saudi/U.A.E airstrikes?
Why didn't you cry for thousands tortured in prisons of Saudi Arabia?
Does humanity of today deserve covid-19 ?
I say yes.
Millions would also say yes.
Just like when the Black Death came.
Took me a while to realize you're Atlas.
Anyway, I think this is a bad idea of a thread because you fucked up with the "deserve" bit. And I suspect some of the attacks on you here appear to be made in bad faith. You may have bigotry issues (don't we all) but you're not a monster.
Coronavirus is a worldwide problem affecting everyone as you know. It's not just Westerners "paying" for it. And it is a health issue as much as it is an economic one.
Whatever point you're trying to make is being ruined by the way you're wording things and it's not fair at all to say that billions of people are asking for this problem.
To answer your rhetorical questions, it's because human individuals generally don't have the faculties and resources to do, or even care enough to do, what it takes to help thousands or millions of other people living in remote regions with which they have no familiarity. It doesn't mean there isn't an ounce of sympathy and sadness for the sufferings of others, though.
I believe that the economic system -which was built by western imperialism- is the main target of all of this.
I think I said "Millions" not "Billions"; mainly the victims of wars -like the one in Syria and Yemen- and any person damaged by this economical system unfairly.
People can help those victim with simple things; if they changed their opinions alone and stopped electing people like "Trump" or cheering to people like MBS, then change will be immense.
But if a disease -or as I call it a mosquito sting- hit that unfair imperial system; then so many will feel relieved.
(March 25, 2020 at 4:18 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I noticed that you completely ignored almost everything I said.
So, to break it down:
- The Islamic book of myths is based directly on the Christian and Hebrew book of myths, so your saying that you're looking from an Islamic point of view is moot.
Islam had predecessors which are Christianity, Judaism.before them the Hanifia of Prophet Abraham and before them the religion of Prophet Noah.
It's an ancient chain ending with today's Islam.
But the Christianity we have today was re-written by the Roman empire:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
And Judaism was re-written by many Rabbis.
I believe in the final version of the ancient religion, not in what Rome wrote or some Rabbis wrote.
Quote:- Non-believers aren't responsible for the state of the Islamic world. That would be down to the dictators and religious leaders in the region with help from individuals and groups from the outside.
Not totally, but they are for a big part.
My Muslim world was invaded and even cut to pieces by imperialistic powers from Europe,
Please revise this historical article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%8..._Agreement
Quote:- I've grown very tired of hearing the whole "it's because of white men and colonial powers that we're the way we are" whine. It's as if you ignore the Islamic invasion of Europe and much of the Middle East, Africa, and Asia.
But you neglected the Roman invasion to Muslims which sparked the very first battles between Islam and Romans:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%80...ntine_wars
And please don't try justifying Islamic colonialism/conquest while criticising European powers for doing the same thing.
No; the Europeans -and imperialistic powers later- are the cause of a very big part of the Middle-East's mess.
Quote:As soon as we come up with a good alternative to oil, the whole ME region will likely end up the way it has been for millennia and, hopefully, outside interests will leave the whole mess alone.
millennia ?
Sykes-Picot and most of the wars Europe fought against Muslims were before the discovery of oil.