RE: [Not] Breaking news; Catholic church still hateful
March 16, 2021 at 4:33 pm
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2021 at 4:33 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(March 16, 2021 at 4:01 pm)Seax Wrote:(March 16, 2021 at 5:49 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So, only those things which affect us immediately and personally are worthy of concern?
I'm neither Tutsi nor Rwandan, but that genocide affected me.
I'm not a parent, but I'm angered by child abuse.
I'm neither Muslim nor Arab, but I object to the characterization of all members of these groups as terrorist.
I'm not elderly, but elder abuse makes me angry.
And so on.
Boru
Catholicism is a belief system that anyone in a secular society is free to adopt or abandon. It's a false analogy.
The foundation of a free society is freedom of conscience; individuals are allowed to think for themselves and make up their own minds, to seek the truth for themselves. Necessarily this means that others will hold believes one thinks are wrong; that is their right. You are allowed to be an atheist, and others are allowed to be Catholic, according to their personal conscience.
You have every right to tell the Catholic Church that they are wrong, but you have no right to insist that they change their religion to suit you. You wouldn't like it if the Catholic Church started telling you how to run this forum.
(March 16, 2021 at 12:46 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You’re the one who implied that the Pope had the power to make law, not me.
He actually does have some power over same sex couples, if those couples happen to be Catholic. Even if they aren’t Catholic, he can refuse to let them be married in a Catholic Church.
Boru
Which is his right. No one has the right to be married in someone's else church, especially not in a country like America with thousands of denominations & where anyone is free to start his own if none of the preexisting ones suit him.
I think you’ve got things a bit muddled. I accept that the Pope does have the right to not bless same sex unions, and I have very clearly said so. As the supreme ecclesiastical authority of the Catholic Church, it’s for him to decide the rules, not me.
My only criticism of Francis (about this issue, at least) is how this announcement came right on the heels of another one he made counseling love and acceptance of our fellows. He’s being both hypocritical and cruel. Not questioning his authority, just his compassion.
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson