Atheism and the existence of peanut butter

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It's true that not everything is clearly laid out in the argument. But since when the fact it doesn't convince everyone is somehow an argument against it..???? This looks like ad populum. We know flat earthers exist in the 21st century, should I argue that the earth might be flat because a round earth doesn't please everybody? Of course not.

That's not what I said.  And again, you are using a strawman.  You know as well as I do that we have plenty of evidence that the earth is not flat.  I simply said that the cosmological argument is not convincing, so that should tell you something about the argument.  You aren't talking to a bunch of people who don't process information and mostly not people who have no experience with religion.  It takes more than just a good argument.  And anyway, there are certainly non-theists who fully accept the possibility that god does exist and caused our universe to exist.  I'm willing to accept the possibility myself.  But it is just that, a possibility.  What else am I to make of it?  What does god do in our universe that makes its presence felt?  For that you need far more than just an argument, you need evidence.

Stephen Hawking also thought the universe was spontaneously created out of nothing, don't you think it's a stupid assertion?? If the universe has a beginning, then it must have come from something, this something is a cause of the universe, that's what the cosmological argument is about. OFC it doesn't get us to the theistic God, but let's take it one at a time. No need to rush when it comes to the central question of existence..................

Hawking didn't claim the universe came from nothing; that's not precisely what spontaneous means.  His view was that the laws of physics accounted for the big bang, which is precisely how we have eliminated many previous myths about god.  And you certainly have no credibility calling anything Hawking said "stupid" until you demonstrate that your intellect is superior to his.  All I've seen you do is regurgitate arguments I've heard scores of times with nothing new added.  Anyone can do that.

I explained above why there has to be a first cause if there is any conceivable notion of time independently of the Big Bang.

What exactly did I ignore?? Do you mean the bit about these argument not getting us to the nature of God..? Of course they don't, I repeat it then : there is no wholesale argument getting us straight to the God of Abraham, Jesus and Muhammad.

Nope, you didn't.

The cosmological argument only accounts for the possibility of a god.  In no way does it describe such god or what it has in mind for humans.  So if one believes there is a god, it remains a study of myth and emotions to determine the nature of this god.  I'm happy for people to spend their lives in search of this ethereal concept but I've spent as much time as I care to on the subject.  Demonstrating that god exists and created the universe would be a change in human existence such that we've never seen before.  Leaving it as a possibility is the best that anyone can do.  If left as a possibility and having no way to absolutely describe the nature of god leaves us precisely where humans have been all of our existence, with differing opinions of god and the afterlife.  It is and will remain a continued source of disagreement and bloodshed and the very fact that people will resort to violence to defend the notion of their god informs my opinion of those people.