Is there a Moderate Form of Political Islam?

[Leonardo17]

- I don’t think the Attitude of the US is high-handed. Almost all NATO countries are getting (and co-producing) F-35’s (to the Exception of the Republic of Turkey of course )

- On Gulf States and other Arab states: On of the main competitor to the F-35 is the French Dassault Mirage and Rafalle plains. So this would be a very good option too. Right now we are stuck with F-16’s Egypt or Pakistan would probably beat us in a hypothetical areal confrontation

- I know that Pakistan bought some Chinese airplanes in the past, but I don’t know if the Chinese are selling J-20’s to anyone yet.

Russia is supplying some SU-35’s and later Mig’s to Iran. But right now they cannot produce next generation airplanes So Azerbaijan is getting interested in our Kaan fighter jet. See the Pakistani JF-17 Thunder is still a Pakistani + Chinese aircraft. It’s that type of technology. I am not commenting on it because I don’t know. But I guess it is probably a very nice machine as well. Kaan is still a western aircraft with western components (like its engine) that looks like the F-22 Raptor and it is being compared to the F-35 because many features are probably similar. With this aircraft having (reportedly) features that correspond more to the particular needs of our armed forces.

And this works for the famous Bayraktar attack drone as well (the Turkish drones that Ukrainians used in the early parts of 2022). The designer of these is a Turkish engineer living in the USA. You can even call it an American design because technically, that’s what it is

The world is quickly becoming very multi polar in terms of newer weaponry. India is working on HAL Tejas, Japan that the 6th generation Mitsubishi FX, Korea has the Boramae “Fighting Falcon”.

So there are many options on the market. But you know: The Turkish President has been asking for Eurofighters in the earlier part of this year in Germany. The simple truth is that, Egypt is able to get Rafales aircraft. And we were only able to get modernization kits for F-16s (+ a few more new F-16’s).


This is all theory. But in a hypothetical confrontation Greece (which is 1/8th of Turkey in terms of population size) could quickly have an upper hand on Turkey in terms of aviation thanks to its newer and better managed defense strategies.

So if there was a Brazilian citizen in this Forum, I thinks we would be able to chat for hours on the similar wrong doings of our populist leaders (I am talking about the former president Jair Bolsonaro of course)