No such thing as a "true" Christian
April 21, 2011 at 1:54 pm
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2011 at 1:59 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
In the Bible, Jesus is VERY descriptive of how to tell who is a believer in him.
This isnt from the mouth of Peter, or Paul. No. These words are direct from Christ Jesus's mouth himself
#1 - He tells his desciples to go out into the world and preach to every creature
#2 - That you must believe in Jesus and be baptised to be saved.
#3 - In the name of Jesus you will cast out devils
#4 - You will speak "with new tongues"
#5 - They shall take up serpents
#6 - They can drink deadly things and not be hurt by them
#7 - They can lay their hands on sick people and those people will recover
Many Christians realize that this list does not work for them, to which they will say "This was only the description of the apostles, not the other believers in Christ." That is not true and contrary to what Christ is quoted as saying. The people who say that obviously do not show the signs and have the lying tongue of satan on their hearts, for it SURELY say in verse Mark 16:17
Another thing, Jesus does not say that some believers will have some signs, and others will have others. Jesus is VERY specific that those who believe, and are baptised, will be able to do ALL of the signs ALL of the time. Not some times, not just on Sundays. He doesnt say "SOME will lay on hands and SOME will cast out devils." Jesus is very specific in his list. Jesus is also very unambiguous (well, except for the "tongues" part)
Does Jesus say that only SOMETIMES they can drink deadly things and it not hurt them? Absolutely not! It flat out says that if you are a believer and baptised, you can dring deadly things and not be hurt. Period. Its on ALL the time. Not just on Easter. Not just for certain kinds of poisons. You should be able to drink radioactive water from Japan and not be hurt by it if you are a REAL believer in Jesus and have been baptised.
Are you a true believer? Or will you spend the rest of this thread trying to prove that Christ Jesus was a liar and that YOU know what it means to be a Christian, and that the list of proofs of being a Christian from Christ himself are lies, mistakes, and mistranslations...or whatever excuse you want to give. To deny this list is to deny the Ascension of Christ. This list was EXTREMELY important to Christ, and he gave the list out as his last words on Earth, and then Ascended into heaven in front of all of those whom he gave the list to. This is significant if you consider yourself a Christian.
Mark 16:15-20 (King James Version) Wrote:15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
This isnt from the mouth of Peter, or Paul. No. These words are direct from Christ Jesus's mouth himself
#1 - He tells his desciples to go out into the world and preach to every creature
#2 - That you must believe in Jesus and be baptised to be saved.
#3 - In the name of Jesus you will cast out devils
#4 - You will speak "with new tongues"
#5 - They shall take up serpents
#6 - They can drink deadly things and not be hurt by them
#7 - They can lay their hands on sick people and those people will recover
Many Christians realize that this list does not work for them, to which they will say "This was only the description of the apostles, not the other believers in Christ." That is not true and contrary to what Christ is quoted as saying. The people who say that obviously do not show the signs and have the lying tongue of satan on their hearts, for it SURELY say in verse Mark 16:17
Quote:17And these signs shall follow them that believe;Not just following the apostles that believe, but following THEM that believe, as in if YOU believe, then these signs SHALL follow you.
Another thing, Jesus does not say that some believers will have some signs, and others will have others. Jesus is VERY specific that those who believe, and are baptised, will be able to do ALL of the signs ALL of the time. Not some times, not just on Sundays. He doesnt say "SOME will lay on hands and SOME will cast out devils." Jesus is very specific in his list. Jesus is also very unambiguous (well, except for the "tongues" part)
Does Jesus say that only SOMETIMES they can drink deadly things and it not hurt them? Absolutely not! It flat out says that if you are a believer and baptised, you can dring deadly things and not be hurt. Period. Its on ALL the time. Not just on Easter. Not just for certain kinds of poisons. You should be able to drink radioactive water from Japan and not be hurt by it if you are a REAL believer in Jesus and have been baptised.
Are you a true believer? Or will you spend the rest of this thread trying to prove that Christ Jesus was a liar and that YOU know what it means to be a Christian, and that the list of proofs of being a Christian from Christ himself are lies, mistakes, and mistranslations...or whatever excuse you want to give. To deny this list is to deny the Ascension of Christ. This list was EXTREMELY important to Christ, and he gave the list out as his last words on Earth, and then Ascended into heaven in front of all of those whom he gave the list to. This is significant if you consider yourself a Christian.
