(March 19, 2012 at 11:57 am)StatCrux Wrote: They already have equal footing in the UK. They simply want to call a civil partnership a marriage
So what?
You think if its called a marriage instead of civil partnership, that your church will be forced into conducting marriages of all sexes.
Nobody forced you to marry divorcees, or those not in the regular congregation, why should you be forced to marry homosexuals.
Instead, you want to declare what other churches can and can't do, on a pretence of moral objection.
The issue is that religious homosexuals can't have a religious ceremony in a place of worship. That is all.
As has been said, the most obvious option is to remove the legal standing of marriage itself, so that it has the same legal status as the eucharist. People can do whatever funky religious ceremony they want to partake in to declare that partnership under their God, without it actually having any legal status.
If a marriage ceremony involves the contract of civil partnership, then its a legal position, regardless of the religion.
My best analogy on this;
Civil Partnership should be the "Tenure of Property", as Marriage is to "Home". You can call anywhere Home, but for the state to be involved, you need legal right of Tenure.
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm