(March 21, 2012 at 2:57 am)Drich Wrote:(March 20, 2012 at 9:06 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: What I used to think was that there's this God out there that was perfect. I knew He was because His way of communicating with us was done perfectly. He sent Himself to earth and did things that changed the course of history. These things could be read about in the New Testament and since it's historically flawless it means the idea of God flows perfectly from the supernatural to reality. I didn't have a problem with this.
The problem that arose eventually was this: there's two sides to this. The first is the idea of this God and his son Jesus. Then you have all the humans involved with this God that had the responsibility of handing down the information. What I observe is that the two ends do not meet. There's a gap between the content of the gospels and reality.
For example, take the wikipedia extract that I've quoted. Firstly, this shows the author wasn't a witness because he just based his writings on what was already available. Secondly, the author of Matthew decided to beef up Mark with supernatural content. The fact that Matthew came second gives no credibility to the supernatural. These are the sorts of wrinkles that start to form a gap between the Bible and true human history.
Respectfully, so what?
Bottom line if you choose to worship the God of the bible then it is not your responsibility for the content of said bible. It is His responsibility especially given the fact the bible says nothing can be added or taken from this book. At that point Content is no longer your concern neither is how it was compiled. IF you worship and praise the God Of The Bible.
Only a weak impotent God has no control over what is in his Holy book and has no way of effecting change. If God wants something changed then we find a cache like the dead sea scrolls or in the End the Same forgiveness He extends to cover the willful sin and evils of man, He will have to also extend the same forgiveness for man's best effort to Worship Him by the Only Holy book He has given us.
That is the point if you choose NOT to take responsibility of a thought process. Worship blindly then there is NO respect for thinking individuals. Nor others of different faiths.
There are contradictions in this Bible and it's god; that is worshiped - how is that perfect?
ah.....do not question blah blah blah...Coincidence or a weak explanation for thoughtlessness?
Why, in Leviticus the original 'law's was slavery not abolished? Omnipotence is a frame of existence of complete power, omnipresent always there (feeling the pain of the slaves down the centuries?) What's missing? Oh Omnipercipient able to perceive everything.
Why is that perception thing missing from this all perfect all knowing example of mythology?
Respectfully, you can and have the freedom to do what you wish.
Yet, asking someone to respect you when what you say is disrespectful to a thinking person, why and what makes you different?
"Religion is comparable to Childhood neurosis" Sigmond Freud
"If one wishes to form a true estimate of the full grandeur of religion, one must keep in mind what it undertakes to do for men. It gives them information about the source and origin of the universe, it assures them of protection and final happiness amid the changing vicissitudes of life, and it guides their thoughts and motions by means of precepts which are backed by the whole force of its authority."
SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis
"Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires."
SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis
"Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck." George Carlin
"The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation." Elizabeth Cady Stanton - American Suffragist (1815-1902)
"Who loves kitty" Robin Williams live on Broadway DVD
"You cannot petition the lord with prayer" Jim Morrison The Soft Parade.
"If one wishes to form a true estimate of the full grandeur of religion, one must keep in mind what it undertakes to do for men. It gives them information about the source and origin of the universe, it assures them of protection and final happiness amid the changing vicissitudes of life, and it guides their thoughts and motions by means of precepts which are backed by the whole force of its authority."
SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis
"Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires."
SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis
"Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck." George Carlin
"The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation." Elizabeth Cady Stanton - American Suffragist (1815-1902)
"Who loves kitty" Robin Williams live on Broadway DVD
"You cannot petition the lord with prayer" Jim Morrison The Soft Parade.