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Soldiers life threatened by his own side.
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RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side.
(June 11, 2012 at 1:40 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "Surely" and "it seems to me"....meh, I'm gonna have to ask for a little more than that. It's illogical to consider the bacteria because in doing so your existence would be immoral? I'm asking you why "thinking beings" deserve moral consideration, or why non-thinking beings do not.

Okay, let me break it down into a more deductive series of expressions, perhaps you will find that more certain:

1- The natural right of living things is to not be harmed (as an example)
2- Harm requires the possession of mind (seen as thought or reasoning)
3- Therefore, that which does not possess a mind cannot be treated in any way that would violate this right.
4-If we cannot violate the rights of a thing in any way then we cannot act immorally towards it, meaning it requires no consideration.

Is that better? if not then tell me what I am overlooking Smile

Quote: It isn't up to me to provide the substance of your little assumption there, nor is it up to me to show you a thinking non-thinking thing in order to win some point.

Indeed it is not but it would be generally helpful and perhaps serve to shed some light on this situation, however, there is of course no obligation on your part to do so and i would not purport that you must do anything. That is your decision Big Grin

Quote:Your personal morality sounds fine to me, but so does Apos bacteria sympathizing morality
I concur entirely, I am not forcing any dogmatism into anybody else's orifices but rather making clear the reasoning behind my beliefs
Religion is an attempt to answer the philosophical questions of the unphilosophical man.
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RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 4, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 4, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 8, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 10, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 11, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 11, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 11, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 11, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 12, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 12, 2012 at 3:30 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 12, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 13, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 13, 2012 at 5:37 pm

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