RE: Hell is not real...
July 30, 2012 at 5:00 pm
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2012 at 5:02 pm by Reforged.)
(July 30, 2012 at 4:45 pm)catfish Wrote:(July 30, 2012 at 4:28 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Oh I often do. Its just when I follow your train of thought it tends to be travelling slower than a crippled pensioner and ultimately arrives at no discernible destination.
Don't be a dumbass. Stop trying to follow, turn yourself around, face forward and attempt to lead.
Oh, ok. I will hijack your train of thought then by saying I've read the Bible cover to cover and I can personally vouch hell was mentioned frequently as possible to inspire obedience through fear... as can these quotes:
5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.
5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.
11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Theres quite a few more, these are what I could find on the web on such short notice.
So thats that. I suppose the real question here is why would you try to convince us theres no claims of hell? Well of course to make your religion sound more palatable than it actually is. Perhaps you also believe yourself to have "sinned" and wish to escape the preachings of your own belief system? Perhaps you cannot stand the thought of a creator who would happily torture his own creations forever for what he made them and simultaneously claim eternal love for them.
Honestly, it could be any number of reasons and I'm not a mind-reader.
Since you invited me to lead this "train" would you care to discuss them?
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.
