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IF GOD EXISTS, THEN HE CERTAINLY DOES NOT CARE FOR YOU AT ALL
RE: IF GOD EXISTS, THEN HE CERTAINLY DOES NOT CARE FOR YOU AT ALL
(December 18, 2012 at 3:02 am)cato123 Wrote:
(December 18, 2012 at 2:52 am)clemdog14 Wrote: Interesting. Maybe God created the capacity to do evil. Then again, it depends on how you define good. In my view (yes view ;D), evil is simply the privation of good. In other words, there is no such thing as evil per se, rather, evil is the absence of good (kind of like how darkness is the absence of light).

Good conversation.

The 'privation of good' argument is still just an 'out' for your god. To make this argument you must admit that your god is incapable of controlling outcomes. God creates the capacity to do evil, evil happens; therefore god doesn't or is incapable of intervening. Which is it? God is incapable (so much for omnipotence) or is unwilling (so much for omnibenevolence).

If, when faced with obvious contradiction, you start to strip god of his 'omni' powers; why then call him god?

For Cato:

What if I reject your conclusion?

Why accept that God has to control all the outcomes? Even if he does not control all the outcomes does not necessarily mean that it limits his power in any way nor does it mean that he is incapable or cannot intervene.

I have a question, why must I choose between the either/or statement when there are other possibilities concerning the incapability or unwillingness?

For Neko:
I understand that you are mentioning Isaiah, Amos, and Lamentations.
Yes, I am a Christian on these forums. I am not here to judge or condemn, rather, I am here to debate, learn, and incite discussion. Yes, I think that my avatar is hilarious.
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Obvious is Obvious - by Cinjin - November 12, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: IF GOD EXISTS, THEN HE CERTAINLY DOES NOT CARE FOR YOU AT ALL - by clemdog14 - December 18, 2012 at 3:17 am

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