(January 6, 2013 at 7:17 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: [quote='Drich' pid='382260' dateline='1357512997']
Why do you say Christ did nothing? Are these acts still being carried out in his name? Has the bible been amended to command such a behaivor in Christians as some church leaders wanted? No?!? If Christ is the monster you have described then why put an end to these terriable acts? Why are we allowed to continue on slaughtering those who do not believe as we believe?
Quote:It isn't Jesus who put a stop to (most) of the atrocities of Christianity today.who says you?
Quote: I say "most" because they still commit them where they can. See the modern witch hunts of Africa for one example that leaps to mind.You do know I have google right? So you will know that when I type in Morder witch hunt Africa" I get a list on non Christian tribes men hunting and killing (mostly women) for putting curses on their villiages and or family members. Witch hunts are and always have been apart of Sub-Saharan African culture. Christianity is a new adaptation being incoperated into that culture. in some ways very sucessfully and others not so much. given enough time and the chance Christ will put a stop to witch hunts in their culture as He did in western culture.
Quote:It is civilization. Christianity is like a rapid dog that has been caged and muzzled. Christians point to the dog and say, "see, it's not biting anyone anymore." But that's only because it has been restrained.Rap-id dog.. I know i am THE LAST person here to make fun of the way someone spells but this conjoured a picture of a dog at a mic "lay'n down the ryhms." Rap-id...
Anyway, I got the gist. Christianity at the height of the Dark ages, and into the victorean era ruled this world with an Iron fist. and with this ultimate supream power, you believe the 'church' just turned it over to the popular vote? ah, no. Christ allow the church to grow into a perverse monster for a reason, to allow it to mature and grow into what it was always meant to be. Why? because we (Christian's) Needed to see the progression to fully understand who we are and what it is the church is supposed to be. Christian needed that thorn in our collective flesh to help us retain true humility. So that we do not boast of the greatness of man made worship, but to give glory to the attonement that truly saves and not to our own efforts.
The Sub-Saharan African church seems to have to do this for themselves.
Quote:Take a good look at the Dominionist movement to get an idea of what Christians would do if they could.Now see this is a perfect example of the reason Christ allowed the church to grow into the monster it became. So people like me can look at a 'movement' like the one you pointed out and tell you it is nothing more than a call to like minded believers to construct a power base, on legalistic principles. Legalism is a practice condemned by Christ. Now with the example of the Parasees and the Dark ages Church I and others like me can point to how and why that is wrong. Thus seperating legalist from biblical Christianity.
The Chruch needs a period like this to grown but looking back at those dark times and longing for them is a mistake. again a perspective not possiable if not for Christ allowing the church to hit a critical mass before destroying it with the principles christianity was founded upon.