Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge

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It does not work that way. any and all 'personal revelation' must first be verified in scripture. Otherwise the 'personal revelation' can be deemed not of God.

How does one go about verifying this in scripture? Had god not ordered people to do things in the past without an explicit scriptural reference to it? Or has he stopped doing this the moment we gained the ability to accurately record him doing so?

As apposed to your model of 'morality?' where popular vote reigns supreme? You do know that is how the Nazis got away with killing millions right? Popular morality changes from person to person, culture to culture and generation to generation. It is an ever changing variable and as such can not ever truly be deemed a Standard.

I'll be charitable and leave aside the rather pathetic Godwin, but don't presume to know my moral code, Drich. My morality has nothing to do with popular vote, and I think you know that; my ethics are developed from a rational consideration of the effects my actions have on other people, and from my personal responsibility and empathy to those around me. The laws of our society aren't passed down from your sky-dictator, but from an evolutionary and social development, designed to maintain and propagate a healthy society.

And who are you to talk about "Standards" anyway? You don't have a fucking standard! According to you, god's intent overrules any sense of morality you might have, so all the things that normal people find to be evil- you know, murder, rape, theft, all the big ones- are in your mind conditional on what your god has to say about them, case by case! You've spent plenty of time explaining that to me, you can't then turn around and say you have a standard, objective morality, because you don't.

Which is it? Is your concept of good and evil objective and therefore unchanging, or does your god decide whether each individual act is sinful or not?

I am fine with my death at any time. as far as God using you as my angel of death, then know if you have been given this revelation then come at night while I am alseep, otherwise you may find it 'difficult' to do what you have been tasked to do. that is unless you can show me in the bible where YOU have been given this authority over life and Death.

Now, does that have to be specific, like an actual order, or can I do the standard theist thing and just twist around any random passage to mean what I need it to mean?

I do need to remind you that this is a hypothetical, by the way. Unlike you, I know that all murder is wrong, no matter who orders it.

Just the oppsite It is the bible that would keep me from killing anyone even if I thought for sure God told me to. So, no you have it backwards. The bible trumps personal revelation.

Do you honestly think you're such a monster, you require a threat of eternal torture just to stop yourself from killing people? Because I think you've got Stockholm Syndrome toward an idea. But fine, let me rephrase the question: say you found a scriptural, explicit order for you to kill your family. Would you do it?

they are not my definations sport. Read your bible.
It is the soceity yoou live in that has change the definations of words away from how God has used them to justify the perversions it wants to live in.

If we are having a Christian discussion, about the God of the bible then it is by the biblical definations we will use and choose our words.

But for the sake of utility, if not just simple politeness, it would have been great if you had answered the question I asked. Instead, you chose to ignore it completely and go off on some tangent before deciding to tell me what I should have meant, and then expected me to play catch up. It's rude, not to mention completely ineffectual.

Which is what this life is all about. Making the desision you just made. Just remember yoour words when you receive judgement.

Said every thug demanding protection money, ever.

Because like it or not you are a member of creation, as such whether you can admit this or not, you long to be apart of creation, as that was how you were designed. being torn away from what you long for, will bring suffering and torment.

Ooh, I have a bit of a thing about people telling me what I want... And this is a weaksauce argument anyway.

Great over view of my work, now show me that what you said is indeed accurate. Show me where I disagree on what is written down, show me or rather ask me to show you to present the evidence to support what I have said. When/if I can't then know your statement here is correct.

Proof? Literally every word you have said in this thread since it started. Every last argument you've made. All of them.