Religion and LGBT people

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The Church is not against people having sex. Sex is great, wonderful and safe - but only when sex is responsible and proper.

That's why the church cultivates such amazing guilt over the act, yeah?

Homosexual sex, by its nature, is not proper as it represents the misuse of the body (wrt its physical form).

How much do you actually know about homosexual sex? Not vicious stereotypes, but actual homosexual sex, performed by real homosexuals. I doubt you have any real experience with it, which is why it's so great that you feel justified in making blanket statements about it.

Incidentally, I suppose you're also against heterosexual sex that isn't straight up missionary?

Additionally, the type of sex many gay men prefer - risky sex with others who are strangers (and so whose health status is unknown) - is very irresponsible.

Once again, stereotypes over facts. You clearly know a lot huh? Care to comment on the gay marriage movement, in this case?

It is not in the least surprising that gay communities are ravaged by HIV. It is sad however that so many people will deny the reality of why this is.

Mhmm. That's why the highest rates of HIV infection tend to be in countries where homosexuality is criminalized. And why the US is the only western country where the predominant demographic for infection is gay men.

Who's denying reality again?

It is not very telling that the group whose sexual behaviour is most far removed from Catholic teaching - gay men - is the group worst affected by HIV?

Interesting. Despite clearly having a thing against homosexuals you presume to know everything about their intimate sexual habits. Something doesn't add up here; could it be that you're just full of shit?

Catholic sexual morality only applies to Catholics. We can see that in the worst hit African nations, the people are overwhelmingly not Catholics. Therefore, Catholic sexual morality simply cannot be blamed for the sexual behaviour of these nations.

Gonna go ahead and say the church spreading misinformation about condom use probably did have something to do about that.

The only thing these the groups have in common is that they do not conduct their sex lives in accordance with Catholic teaching.

Ah, there it is again: a blanket statement about a group you have little to now actual knowledge on. At least you're consistent.

None of this is vague, or at all difficult to understand. All that is required is a willingness to accept the truth which is borne out by the statistics.

Swallow down that Kool Aid, peons!

However, many people cannot do this, because it either contradicts their own opinion, or they do not like to concede that the Catholic Church has a point.

The Catholic Church has many points. You, however, do not.

The result of this refusal to accept the truth is that HIV will continue to spread and more lives will be blighted.

The church advocating abstinence over safe sex to the point of lying about the latter probably didn't help there.
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