Atheists; what do you base your morals on?

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1/5th of the world is under Communism

You mean china. where the stuff comes from.

and vast other parts of Europe and elsewhere have leftist governments where the state substantially affects the way that societies develop.

For instance?
You had better not look at England where our right wing government is destroying our country bit by bit.

I am not going to make the claim that a massive public sector is the same as authoritarian communism, but it is authoritarianism. It can do some good though.

A large amount of public servants is a large amount of people serving the country. It is only authoritarian if you have a government that is authoritarian and in america you don't.

If you want evidence, look at your paycheck. See the parts of it which the government takes out. Someone takes the and moves it somewhere else.

Are you bitching about tax!

I am not against all government social programs. The Bible says that people should redistribute wealth in the Old Testament. The issue for me is the future. What dominates peoples lives, it is the state or something else? What do people talk about and think about most of the time? Is it politics or other things? Who employs people? What does the education system look like, is it to indoctrinate in the ideology of the state or is it for other ends?

Oh for fucks sake.