RE: Four questions for Christians
July 7, 2013 at 12:59 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2013 at 1:02 pm by pineapplebunnybounce.)
Quote:Well, I ALSO believe in gay marriage AND polygamy, so we have the same views here.OMG! are you kidding me? why are we repeating the same thing again and again? I'm done with the slavery thing ok? People thought it was right, if you don't think it's right, that's your business. You cannot pretend as if everyone thought the same way as you do. Slavery was never OK? In whose point of view? Your god thought it was ok, it's in the bible. You are the one who doesn't think it's ok. People thought it was ok, that makes it ok for them.
Of course, though, if gays are doing it for fun, it's far more disturbing to the Christian community than it is for others. I'm sure atheists never lifted a finger over the issue. We can say the CHRISTIAN community's gay ethic is changing.
If we all agree that we should lie to each other and betray our friends, it does NOT become OK. I feel that is a very dangerous thought. If it takes 50,000 Americans breaking the law for anarchy to reign, it is only because legislation can be changed at the will of the people. With morals, it is not the same. Why didn't the abolitionists think that slavery was OK when all of the slave routes were good and running? Slavery was never OK, no matter how many people thought it was for however long, and someone needed to put a stop to it and get us back on track. Human morality is like a self-repairing system.
As for religious texts, I was referring to humanity as a whole, and possibly primary sources other than the Bible. In the face of injustice, there will always be the religious to advocate for the right. Most of the abolitionists were Christian and used Christian propaganda in the abolition of slavery.
Because you think that there is gender inequality in the Christian Old Testament doesn't allow you to conclude that the Bible says women are worth less than men.
I, again, am confused at what point you're trying to make. I said that an act that does not benefit the society, will eventually die out and be considered "immoral", despite everyone believing it was moral when they were doing it. You said I was wrong that everyone knows. But now you admit that they thought it was OK, but that because you don't think it's ok, then slavery was never ok for anybody?
And here you go again, you said religious texts, but now you're stretching that to all "religious people". This is not an acceptable stretch, because religious people can be influenced by things other than their religion. To pretend otherwise is also too simplistic a worldview. Plus, you'll have to answer for those who fought for slavery, as esquilax said, if religion wants to claim the responsibility. I did not say chinese old testament, I was referring to philosophers and thinkers that chinese quote like you christians quote the bible. Please read properly.
No, reading the bible allows me to conclude that your bible condones gender inequality.
The only thing, that has any power over what is moral and what is immoral, is evolution. Because if you do something that doesn't benefit the whole, that act cannot last long. Evolution is the one that has the final say. Not your religion.
It's also very interesting how you did not address the point i brought up about muslim countries, which are religious, by anyone's standards.