RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 17, 2013 at 11:39 am
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2013 at 11:43 am by ronedee.)
(October 17, 2013 at 9:35 am)Ben Davis Wrote: As 'atheists' aren't a homologous group, it depends entirely on the atheist in question. As you've seen from the posts, there are quite a number of views out there. I'm yet to see one from the nihilistic perspective but I'm sure it's on the way!Which then leads me to wonder about your accusations?
(October 17, 2013 at 9:35 am)Ben Davis Wrote: Generally, I find that people want to get along, irrespective of their religious beliefs (I'm in the UK). Consequently those people agree generally on many rules of behaviour which stem from socialised empathy.Generally here too!
(October 17, 2013 at 9:35 am)Ben Davis Wrote: Atheists are neither naturally cynical nor nasty. This simply indicates that your main purpose in this thread is to misrepresent or create a negative stereotype of 'atheists'.
Besides my emphsis on the word [here].... I'm guessing you don't spend much time "here"? Generally it's hard forming ideas and relationships w/ atheists when you are being called "jerks" and worse, constantly. Maybe its different in the UK?
(October 17, 2013 at 9:35 am)Ben Davis Wrote: Given that you believe in 'god-given' morality, that's a very ambiguous definition. But now I think about it, god's not always very clear on what he considers moral so I guess some ambiguity is to be expected.I don't see anything ambigous about the Ten Commandments.
Curious isn't it: it almost seems like god's morality is... well, subjective.
(October 17, 2013 at 9:35 am)Ben Davis Wrote: ...and yet that makes little/no difference to the christians who commit crimes. It's almost as if punitive justice systems don't work as much of a deterrent. You don't think that god's 'perfect' justice might be a little... well, faulty?
God's? Or what man percieves as God's?
(October 17, 2013 at 9:35 am)Ben Davis Wrote: Yes. In fact, there are so many that I don't have time right now to list them all.
Really? A moral list? "Good" would be all that is necessary. And easy to remember.
(October 17, 2013 at 9:35 am)Ben Davis Wrote: Sorry, which words? And who said them? Is this 'you' misgeneralising atheists as a homologous group again?
Just read any replies by your compadres to any religious! I guarantee you'll not need to go far!
(October 17, 2013 at 9:35 am)Ben Davis Wrote: And I've witnessed some soil. It made me do a dance. What's your point? You've just posted your comments without interruption or censorship so any claims of persecution must be false.
Claims? Again your head is planted squarely in ... the darkness as far as your reality of what is going on here! Or do you just like being contrary?
(October 17, 2013 at 9:35 am)Ben Davis Wrote: Personally, the 'golden rule' is an important factor as are other generalisations regarding enhancement of well-being but I've experienced so many exceptions as to understand that morality must, by necessity, be contextual. Since catholic doctrine includes much interpretation of god's morality, your church demonstrates the same understanding.
Ahhhh.... and finally we get to the answer for my question. Unfortunately, you've said more about God and religious motives, inaccurately I might add.... then your own perspective!
I'll wait for your "list"!
Quis ut Deus?