Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?

[Sword of Christ]

And if your group just happens to be able to take credit for those values that they have no claim to ownership over, well... just a coincidence, huh?

Give the grace and love of God working through the commonly shared good of humanity the credit if you like. You can see Christmas as the embodiment of that, it can be through all religions equally that's fine.

And why are the only choices "god" or "selfishness?" Kinda poisoning the well, aren't you?

Secular Humanist morality is ripped from Christian/religious morality anyway seeing as you have nothing of your own. If you wanted to apply a rational scientific or an evolutionary based moral system it's already been tried before and it failed in horror.

But my personal answer is yes. Shit happens.

Shit happens because?