(October 17, 2013 at 3:10 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Christ is the good part of humanity no-one stole him.
Prove it or shut the hell up.
Quote: You don't believe in God though so all of what we consider good in humanity has to be evolutionary instinct and neurological survival hardwiring, I appreciate that. You don't base your moral values on this so called fact of life though, good thing you don't.
I base my moral values on the fact that I'm not a fucking sociopath like you religious people seem to think everyone is. I have my own conscience to rely on, an instinct built into me through evolution and refined by my own experiences with the world. It's not something I intend to abdicate to your fucking fantasy sky daddy until the day you can prove to me that that's where it came from.
But you can't. Which is why all you have are arrogant assertions and unfounded assumptions as to what I believe.
Quote:We share the exact same morality. Atheists are keen to point this out and try claim credit for it ignoring that much of this moral progress was spearhead by deeply religiously motivated people who valued people as God creatures and the world as his creation.
Tell that to the slave owners who justified that with their bibles, mmkay? Or the people even today who beat their children unto death and justify it with the bible.
That's what I'm saying: the good parts and the bad of humankind just come from us, from humans. And as desperate as your holy book is to distance itself from the bad parts, it's simply a fact that it's a hell of a good justification for otherwise good people to do bad things, because their minds have been addled with your holy baloney fear mongering bullshit.
Quote:If the world is as you think it is then we should care about what exactly? Making ourselves comfortable as possible before we die and are dissolved back into the uncaring cosmos? Of course atheists don't think this way but why? I'd say it's because there is more there than you claim there to be.
Or because we see no need in your make believe crutch to find meaning in our lives, you damn child. Look at you and your fucking self absorbed logic here: you look out at the world and without some magic eternal reward, all you see is the fact that someday this world won't have you in it, so why bother with it?
I look out and I know that when I die, I'll be leaving an entire planet behind me that persists, you selfish fuck. What do I care about? I care about the billions of other people who will survive me, some of whom I care about immensely, and wish to live happy lives even when I'm gone. The fact that it's a temporary life just makes it all the more imperative that I do the most good while I have it.
Apparently, you can't see this without someone dangling the keys to the playground in front of you so you do your chores. And you presume to tell us we're immoral?
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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