(October 17, 2013 at 9:04 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: See the problem with de-nihilists, is this. They trust their conscience, but not its source. They form ethical systems based on reason without accepting the basis of the world's rational order. Its been 14 pages of "works for me" without any reflection on why it works. Nihilism is the logical conclusion of atheism. De-nilhism is the refusing to face that conclusion.
Um what is this psychobabble?
Atheism first of is a position, it is not a loyalty oath ON ANY ISSUE.
"Why stuff works" is what scientists work on figuring out, that is independent of what the label of the scientist is.
And whatever "why" scientists figure out does not need anyone's god to fill in that gap.
Nihilism is a label, it is not a lab. Labs are where things are tested and falsified.
Atheists come to different conclusions and have different ideas and different levels of education. Which is why regardless of label, when a dispute about the nature of reality is at issue, science, and labs are where those things are tested and falsified.
"This is all their is" does not say morality is meaningless. It is in the here and now to the living, even if it is not to the history of the universe or the future of the universe.