(October 18, 2013 at 6:21 am)max-greece Wrote: What you haven't addressed, however is my last statement "If we accept that instinct is pre-programming then fundamentals of ethics morality may well be too."
Note the use of the word - fundamentals.
I like the way you think. You and Genkaus can both agree that the quality of being considered sets human morality apart from mammalian pro-social behavior generally. But as you say, all that does is add a capacity to over-ride. It remains however deeply rooted in mammalian pro-social behavior. We haven't become angels or something entirely different than what we were when we started out.
Isn't it ironic how often the same folks that argue for the need to plan ahead and prepare a moral system which is entirely conscious, will be the very same people who will argue against the possibility of free will.