RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 18, 2013 at 11:45 am
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2013 at 11:49 am by Norfolk And Chance.)
(October 16, 2013 at 8:23 pm)ronedee Wrote: ...for an Atheist that is?
I see the mods have been busy!! Well.... I've been busy myself! Converting Atheists, and godless peeps in general is hard work! Plus... I figured you'd all want to wish me a Happy Anniversary!! Especially those who said I'd be run outta Dodge within a month! Really though... no cudos necessary! I know you all love me!
I don't love you, if the truth be told.
Quote:Back to the subject at hand! Given the natural cynicism and nastiness of Atheists [here] in general... is there any reason to live a "Moral" life?
Define "moral". But yes, there is a reason, that reason being if you have a good personal moral code, you are less likely to end up in conflict, hurt others etc. Survival of the species depends on being able to live alongside each other.
Quote:"Moral", in terms of [Good, Honest] deemed by traditions through time. Maybe to include a few slightly general commandments: Lies, stealing, adultery, etc.
I see you just defined it. See my answer above.
Quote:I mean... if there is no one or nothing to [say you are wrong, but you] about; a little swing w/ your buddies wife, or that $10 the acne faced kid gave you extra w/ your change at the Walmart; or telling your wife you were out w/ your buddy instead of his wife... How do you keep it in check? Or do you?
You're either honest or you're not. You either have a conscience or you don't. There are people in between as well. The thing is, whether you are honest or care about others, is not dependent on religion. There are just as many theists who use and abuse others as there are atheists who do that.
As for keeping stuff in check, well it's simple for me...put myself in the other persons shoes and ask myself whether I would like *whatever* done to me.
Quote:Yeah, yeah....I know you would say that Christians are doing the same thing....And they are! But, they do have a conviction in the Lord Jesus. and they know that they will answer to their words and deeds.
But the don't know that they will answer to their words and deeds. If they knew it, they'd not risk doing anything out of line.
Quote:What do you have to answer to? Is there a point to living any kind of "honest" life?
I answer to myself, my family and peers. The point of living an honest life is the respect you gain from others. So on a personal level, there is a point to living an honest life. We give our own life meaning.
On a grander scale, I actually don't think there is any actual point or meaning to life - life just is there. If life has a point, it is to replicate, but life doesn't know that.
Quote:As an observation as a Christian... Your words are pretty mean spirited to any religious. And I've witnessed a lot of hate here. Maybe you feel you have that right? But also people are individuals, and deserve at least to be heard for their ideas, and concepts relating to just about anything.... religious or otherwise.
Anyway... what do you as an atheists feel is your moral compass. And what is the gauge set at? Honesty in general... where is the line drawn, and how?
I hope you take this thread seriously! Thanks for your answers. As a Christian I have a guide/threat (if you will) in my life. I'm just curious how a person acts w/o what many here would call an "obstacle"?
Again! Good to be back celebrating ONE YEAR w/ all my A-team buddies!
Yes we can be mean to theists. But put yourself in our shoes for a minute...we all think you're all deluded. We get sick of being told about made up stuff that is going to happen for not believing in made up stuff. You get irritated after a while.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.