Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?

[Phea1Mike]

"It would be the same as God changing his mind and deciding that down is up and black is white. But he never has changed his mind in the eternity of his existence, which also means he never will into the future."


I'd better make this clear right up front. Since I do not believe the bible is anything more than Hebrew mythology, I tend to not get into pissing contests over it's contents.

That being said, if you haven't read it, or don't have the reading comprehension skills to see the many contradictions, errors, and immoral dogma throughout it, all I can do is give you some links to help you sort is all out. This one should get you started:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

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...for an Atheist that is?


"Yeah, yeah....I know you would say that Christians are doing the same thing....And they are! But, they do have a conviction in the Lord Jesus. and they know that they will answer to their words and deeds."

I was under the impression that the whole point of Christianity was that if you believed, you are unconditionally forgiven. There is no one to, "answer to". After salvation, there is no punishment, no consequences for any of our actions, or... what would be the point?

I've been told that a mass murderer/rapist/(insert sin), who genuinely accepts Jesus in his heart, will be saved and go to heaven, while a man who has tried to live a good, decent life, and just doesn't buy into the human sacrifice-zombie-Jesus thing, will be damned. There is nothing remotely fair or just about this horrible belief. The concept of allowing someone else to atone for our actions, is an ancient concept,(like slavery), that some of us have outgrown.

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"Yeah, yeah....I know you would say that Christians are doing the same thing....And they are! But, they do have a conviction in the Lord Jesus. and they know that they will answer to their words and deeds."

I was under the impression that the whole point of Christianity was that if you believed, you are unconditionally forgiven. There is no one to, "answer to". After salvation, there is no punishment, no consequences for any of our actions, or... what would be the point?

I've been told that a mass murderer/rapist/(insert sin), who genuinely accepts Jesus in his heart, will be saved and go to heaven, while a man who has tried to live a good, decent life, and just doesn't buy into the human sacrifice-zombie-Jesus thing, will be damned. There is nothing remotely fair or just about this horrible belief. The concept of allowing someone else to atone for our actions, is an ancient concept,(like slavery), that some of us have outgrown.