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Question for Muslims
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RE: Question for Muslims
(April 20, 2014 at 7:26 am)rhn2704 Wrote:
(March 16, 2014 at 3:34 pm)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: The god in Quran tells the muslims to kill them .
Most of the people who believe in the Quran, also believe that Islam is the religion of peace, so they cherry pick from the Quran and eventually they don't kill anyone, and their opinion on the ones who do follow the Quran : is that they are terrorists and that Islam is not the reason for this and its just an act of a few .


Misquoted Verse #6
"And slay them wherever ye catch them.." [Noble Quran 2:191]
A classic and popular example of what Muslim scholars, like Dr. Jamal Badawi, call a 'cut and paste' approach. Everything becomes so much easier for the Anti-Islamists when they remove the context. The solution for the Muslim is to simply replace the verse in its context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear (the punishment of) God, and know that God is with those who restrain themselves." [Noble Quran 2:190-194]

Also it is also important to note that the Quran clearly condemns murder. The Quran says about the prohibition of murder:

Take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus does He command you, that ye may learn wisdom." [Noble Quran 6:151]

Nor take life, which God has made sacred, except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, We have given his heir authority (to demand Qisas(retribution) or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the law) [Noble Quran 17:33]

"...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people." [Noble Quran 5:32]

So the Quran makes it very clear that Muslims cannot initiate an attack against others, unless there is an immediate threat of being attacked. The context of the quoted verses applies only to situations where the oppressors are killing Muslims. In this case, they have a right to defend themselves and others, especially the weak and oppressed.

"If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge." [Noble Quran 9:6]

The Quran not only says that a Mushrik(pagans) seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place.

In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don't just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security? This is exactly what Allah says in the Glorious Quran to promote peace in the world.

Hope it clears everything.

No not really. As with every 'holy' text, it relies on an interpretation uniformly and universally accepted.

If only life were so simple.

the truth is, you could cite over and over how 'peaceful' the Quran is, and I could show you myriad examples of where people use it to justify violence and murder against others.

Subjectivity is the downfall of apologetics.
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Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 2:21 pm
RE: Question to Rayaan - by Jackalope - March 16, 2014 at 2:25 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Jackalope - March 16, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Lemonvariable72 - May 19, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Cyberman - May 19, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 16, 2014 at 3:01 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 16, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 16, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 16, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - May 2, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - May 2, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - May 6, 2014 at 1:23 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 19, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by rhn2704 - April 20, 2014 at 7:26 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 20, 2014 at 7:32 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Cyberman - April 21, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 21, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2014 at 3:41 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Chas - March 16, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rayaan - March 16, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 16, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Minimalist - March 16, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rayaan - March 16, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rayaan - March 16, 2014 at 5:24 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Chas - March 18, 2014 at 12:48 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Minimalist - March 16, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Cyberman - March 16, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rayaan - March 16, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 17, 2014 at 4:56 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Chas - March 18, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Jacob(smooth) - March 16, 2014 at 5:07 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2014 at 5:33 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 18, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Minimalist - March 18, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 2:44 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 18, 2014 at 2:47 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by OGirly - March 18, 2014 at 7:40 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 18, 2014 at 8:25 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 10:00 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 18, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 10:08 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 18, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 18, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by jesus_wept - March 20, 2014 at 7:05 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 7:25 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 20, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by jesus_wept - March 20, 2014 at 4:53 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 20, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by jesus_wept - March 21, 2014 at 6:38 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 23, 2014 at 2:58 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 28, 2014 at 1:35 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - April 12, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - April 12, 2014 at 11:44 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - April 24, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 19, 2014 at 3:25 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 21, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 18, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 10:40 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Chas - March 18, 2014 at 11:18 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 18, 2014 at 11:46 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Cyberman - March 20, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Cyberman - March 20, 2014 at 8:31 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 20, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by MysticKnight - March 29, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Dragonetti - April 13, 2014 at 12:18 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 6, 2014 at 1:04 am

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