RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals
April 23, 2014 at 1:02 pm
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2014 at 1:05 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
I've started to embrace moral subjectivity. Morality is about choices. Choices have consequences. You either serve Divine Love and Wisdom or you serve yourself. "Choose this day whom ye shall serve," and reap the consequences of that choice.
(April 22, 2014 at 4:19 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:On what basis do you choose a moral framework? You've pushed the problem back.(April 22, 2014 at 12:17 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: Theists aren't the only ones who are moral realists. 72% of philosophers are atheists, and 59% of philosophers are moral realists.
And saying that because one goes about morality through a certain framework they choose that morality is therefore subjective is silly. That would entail that everything else (mathematics, logic, science) are equally as subjective, as you do that in those fields too.
I don't think we should let theists paint us into a corner with a false dilemma.
We have Virtue ethics, which predate the Bible, Deontology from Kant, (pure reason-based ethics), Utilitarianism. All of which are valid alternative frameworks to "I get my morals from God," which is a problematic statement in and of itself. Few contemporary Christians would be able to defend slavery, beating children and women, stoning, and rape with a straight face.
And yet, that is the morality we find in the bible.
If all morality is from God, where did those outside morals come from?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics