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Questions About the Rapture
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RE: Questions About the Rapture
@Jenny A
I think the confusion comes from the fact that the Bible doesn't use the word "rapture", we use the word out of convenience but it is supported scripturally, which I'll give a very brief explanation.
As I said before (in another thread) the Bible always gives a foreshadowing or precursor to a major event. Jesus gave this example.
Quote:Matthew 24
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
and also
Quote:1 Peter 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
We must keep in mind that the Gospel hadn't been preached to the gentiles yet (Paul is the one responsible for that) so Jesus and Peter are clearly referring to the Jews.
In the book of revelations it shows how many Jews are saved, which is 144,000, 12,000 from each tribe.
Quote:Revelation 7
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
So this is how it happens, Jesus comes to the Jews, but he is rejected, and according to the prophecy of Daniel, the Messiah would be cut off, in other words not fulling all the prophecies he was supposed to fulfill.
Quote:Daniel 9:26
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
"but not for himself" alluding to him dying for the sins of the people.
So Jesus is rejected by the Jews and the gospel is given to the gentiles and at the end of the gentile period, the "rapture" takes place, and he returns back to the Jews and reveals himself as the messiah at the battle of Armageddon (many nations will organize an army, and attack Israel) and that's when he fulfills the prophecy's that the messiah is supposed to fulfill.
Quote:Zechariah 12
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
So now that we determined that the "rapture" takes place before Jesus comes back for the Jews, Then there has to be an example of the "rapture" before Noah's ark (the 8 people representing the 144,000 Jews saved) and we see that there was, A man named Enoch just disappeared off the earth one day.
Quote:Genesis 5
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
If you notice, this is an 8 to 1 ratio, 1 person being "raptured and 8 being saved by the ark. so if the 8 = 144,000 that would mean the amount of people going in the rapture would be something like 18,000 people worldwide, I don't think that many people disappearing would even be noticed.
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Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 28, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Valkyrie - September 28, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 28, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Chad32 - September 28, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by vorlon13 - September 28, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Elskidor - September 28, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Drich - September 28, 2014 at 9:02 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 28, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Drich - September 28, 2014 at 9:57 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 28, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Drich - September 29, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by genkaus - September 29, 2014 at 12:04 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 29, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Drich - September 29, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 29, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Drich - September 30, 2014 at 10:36 am
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by DramaQueen - September 28, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Whateverist - September 28, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by pocaracas - September 29, 2014 at 12:50 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by JuliaL - September 28, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Natachan - September 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 28, 2014 at 11:14 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by vorlon13 - September 28, 2014 at 11:57 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Minimalist - September 28, 2014 at 11:28 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Mudhammam - September 29, 2014 at 12:15 am
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 29, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by DramaQueen - September 29, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Minimalist - September 29, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Huggy Bear - September 29, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Huggy Bear - September 29, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Huggy Bear - September 29, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by FreeTony - September 29, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Huggy Bear - September 29, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Huggy Bear - September 29, 2014 at 1:26 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by FatAndFaithless - September 29, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by DramaQueen - September 29, 2014 at 1:22 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by vorlon13 - September 29, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Crossless1 - September 29, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Minimalist - September 29, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 29, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Huggy Bear - September 29, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Anomalocaris - September 29, 2014 at 1:38 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 29, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Neo-Scholastic - September 29, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by professor - September 29, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by mr350 - September 15, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by pocaracas - September 15, 2015 at 5:51 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by pocaracas - September 15, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 7:10 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by pocaracas - September 15, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Randy Carson - September 16, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by pocaracas - September 16, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by abaris - September 15, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 5:20 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by abaris - September 15, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Whateverist - September 16, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 16, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Whateverist - September 16, 2015 at 11:29 pm
RE: Questions About the Rapture - by Jenny A - September 16, 2015 at 11:32 pm

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