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Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
(March 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I think he/she is talking about equal qualifications, obviously... Otherwise it doesn't make sense. You are the one assuming the man's is more qualified.

Erm...no I wasn't.

(March 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: If you have 50% of the population occupying 5%-10% of well paid jobs and power positions something's wrong, unless you want to argue that men are biologically superior in intelligence. If you really have equal opportunities for both genders it doesn't make sense for women to get paid less and occupy so few positions of power. Don't you think? after all - Equal opportunities usually balances the number. Why the hell should one gender be less interested in working and earning lots of money?

Women go in for less well paying jobs, simple as. They also take way more time off work than men do, and visit their doctor way more often than men. Then of course, pregnancy makes it more difficult for women to work as well.


(March 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: ROFLOL
Fire all men? Do you know what economical ignorance means? You just demonstrated it. I'm not going to say why that wouldn't work. You see, first of all 50% of the working force is men and obviously you need men to work, you cant' survive with only 50% of the population working, what would the other 50% live on? Thinking

Okay, you shouldn't really insult other people when you quite clearly didn't understand what I was saying. I wasn't talking about all men all over the world, only an idiot would think that I was saying that. I meant in, for example, an office. All the men are paid more than the women for the same jobs. So why doesn't the employer fire all the men that work there, hire all women and save money?

(March 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: The wage gap is not for people with different jobs, it means that if someone holds the same job (example - doctor) you are more likely to receive more as a man.

Not all doctors are equal. As a male doctor, you are more likely to earn more money, simply because they go into higher paying jobs. Women are more likely to go into lower paying jobs like pediatrics because they like children more, whereas men are more likely to be brain or heart surgeons, which pay more.

(March 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: You can't say it doesn't happen any more because the evidence points otherwise. The wage gap exists even on female dominated fields, and exists even when both work the same hours and are productive. There's a lot more to it than people's choices, there's sociology and cultural barriers involved.

You still haven't given me any examples of jobs where men earn more than women for exactly the same work.

(March 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: To answer your first question - Basically any job, including some female dominated ones. You are, on average, more likely to make more money as a man. Even if you consider it justified, it's a fact. You are easily promoted, suffer little workplace sexual harassment, you don't need to worry about getting fired or getting your career affected negatively because you got pregnant, you are expected to be aggressive because it's a masculine trait, etc.

And none of that is relevant since we're talking about a wage gap.

(March 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: If one group gets promotions more often despite both groups having degree and skills for the job then it's most likely motivated by a bias. If I showed you a graph with 100 people, 50 whites and 50 blacks with same qualifications, and only whites got the job, would you say it's not racism?

Can you show me a graph where 100 people, 50 men and 50 women and only the men got the jobs?

(March 2, 2015 at 5:40 pm)I_am_not_mafia Wrote: Bad Wolf, obviously you didn't read the link I posted earlier.

It didn't work for me

(March 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: That is just one link to many different studies all showing that on average women get paid less for doing the same job even if they are equally qualified,

Can you tell me any specific jobs where this happens since i can't read the link. Also, I hope that the employers of these people were arrested since it's illegal to pay a woman less for the same work. Were they arrested?


(March 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Dystopia Wrote: If you disagree with this, then please post peer reviewed studies showing that this isn't the case. Just dismissing it as rubbish shows that you can't argue your case.

Oh I can argue my case, I just don't want to, not with unpleasant people like Dystopia who goes into a SJW rage every time feminism is mentioned.
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Messages In This Thread
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community? - by Bad Wolf - March 2, 2015 at 8:00 pm
SPEEDBUMP - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 4, 2015 at 9:42 am

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