(January 7, 2015 at 9:05 pm)dyresand Wrote:(January 7, 2015 at 9:04 pm)100 Years of Solitude Wrote: I'm not defending that immorality is limited to religious people, it's part of the human condition. That would be hypocritical to say.
What i'm saying is that they are following literally the sacred Book, which if you ever read promotes a Holy War against anyone who does not share their beliefs. Same thing for the Crusades hundreds of years before.
Abrahamic religions not peaceful one bit.
No they are not I agree. Religion in the west became civil because of empathetic people cherry picking their books. The west became civil in spite of religion, not because of it.
But that does not mean evolution itself in what leads to flawed perceptions that lead to religions will stop. You kill one religion another one will pop up. So again, at best you can work to more manageable level to the point it cannot go off the rails.
The God of Abraham is no different than Kim Jong Un, as depicted in those books. Can be at best, tolerant but still is immovable and cannot be voted out of office. Most of the time the God character seeks blind loyalty and will treat his minions well, but step out of line or question this God you are deemed the enemy.
Theists well say this is bigoted, but it is not. It is no different a criticism than that of a movie. It is a criticism of HOW the character is written in literature considering the context of the time those books were written, and even polytheists lived in feudal system where the kings ruled and the entire society depended on the loyalty to that king. Kings are dictators and is why you see the word "lord" used in those books.
Even in polytheism you had dictators back then and the mortality rate was much higher back then so even in polytheism your life depended on loyalty to that tribe. And even in polytheism there was a false attachment to the divine for your good fortune.
That is why the OT, Bible and Koran are written like that. The leader was who you followed and in a very literal sense your life depended on doing that. Just like you protected a king or pharaoh or Caesar.
It really simply amounts to humans projecting their own desires into a comic book immortality because doing that is much easier, and certainly so back then, than facing our finite existence in reality. It made more sense back then because humans didn't know better, but we know better now.