It wasn't Mohammed who founded Islam.

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But there's one hitch.... all these wiki pages and their sources... they're biased by the muslim religion...

Not just Wiki but also all of the 99% of historians and scholars and every professor around the world who disagree with you are also biased by the Muslim religion, right?

Disagree with me?
So then tell me where they got their info from?

Anyway, biased does not mean wrong. You should know that. It just means some flourishes must have been added to the tale (and some nasties were removed) in the recounting that eventually settled in the written form.

Can you honestly say that all the information regarding Mohammad and his descendants is recorded exactly as it happened for real?

As I said way up there... Abd Al-Malik was the guy who made it the "state religion"... the guy who made arabic the "state language"... the guy, most likely, had his scribes write the qur'an as a political tool, following the best practices of the romans when they took on the bible.

And here you've posted a link to Wiki on Abd-Al-Malik to support your argument, even though you claimed that Wiki is biased. And the link still doesn't say anything about Abd-Al-Malik being the official founder of Islam. It says that he simply "consolidated Muslim rule and extended it, made Arabic the state language, and organized a regular postal service." That's not the same thing as starting the religion. He just consolidated and extend the Muslim rule, which indicates that there were already Muslims ruling the land before he started doing this.

sigh... religion is different from cult.
The tribal cult that sprung up after Mohammad's death, became a basis to the religion he instated throughout the empire.
And, following the best roman practices, he must have incorporated a few elements from each area of the empire, so that all would feel like they belong to this new religion.

Not to mention that the part in bold is pure conjecture, with no reference or source provided. It's very clear to me that you're just grasping at straws here.

There's no need for me to debate about this anymore even. Say whatever you want ...

And Mo getting godlike intel from an angel, memorizing all of it, recounting it all to this tribe, having those people go on recounting it to their descendents and those to their descendents, all the while they're in an ongoing war for territory, until someone remembers to gather all of them and write it down for posterity.... and what was written was verbatim what the angel told Mo... that makes sense and is in accordance with everything we know of human nature...
Talk about grasping at straws... -.-'