How Muslims believed earth was spherical long before anybody mentions it.

[Brian37]

But for real. You need to lay off the "Social terrorist" bullshit. People disagreeing with your views and pointing out absurd ideas is not a form of terrorism, it's called discussion and debate.

On this point no & hell no.
Mocking the writer & making fun of him does indeed rise to the level of social terrorism.
Oh well, it also pushes the other side to become more stubborn.

Explain to me why do you think there wasn't any kind of social terrorism in this thread ????

Irrational

Since the verse directly guided to the spherical earth, then the common Muslim who doesn't know any science, did also believe in it. That's how it became widespread.

The scholars' attempts alone weren't the only key. We can argue that the models & designs along with the theories (scientifically) were based on greek contribution, but for the common man, it was all in the Quran.

That is the point that wasn't affected throughout this topic ; I also believe it was proved over & over.

Brian37


From my point of view ; an illiterate man in the desert saying that verse, would make me think twice.
If it didn't do the trick for you, then mmmmm..yeah ; different opinions..
The Quran is not an astronomy book, neither a biology article.

That is where you are fucking up "my point of view". Again, everyone argues that.

Universal scientific understanding is when you take a claim, put it through a common method outside your personal wishes, then hand that claim to people with no horse in the race(peer review). If they say "something is wrong here" you start over. If they come back with "this works" then you have something.

Unless you are doing that you are not objective.

There is NOTHING in any antiquated book of myth of ANY label that has any modern understanding that science knows today. Making an observation does not mean you know what you are observing, and it does not justify one god or one god club over another.

Christian "My book says so, science makes my god club the only valid club"

Muslim, "My book says so science makes my god club the only valid club"

Jews, "My book says so science makes my god club the only valid club"

Hindus, "My ancient writings say this, so that makes my club valid"

Buddhists, "My writings say this so that makes my club valid"

Yet none of these groups are willing to put their claims under a neutral test and merely retrofit science after the fact to justify their social clubs and superstitions.

Our species ability to gap fill and ability to make false claims is what is going on. Our modern knowledge of science is completely club and label independent.