RE: How Muslims believed earth was spherical long before anybody mentions it.
March 18, 2015 at 3:47 pm
(March 18, 2015 at 2:33 pm)AtlasS2 Wrote: Brian37
Oh well I also shared my ideas with you didn't I ? to be as objective as possible.
And I did start over ; hence demolish the whole theory : the Quran is not the first book to say earth is spherical.
I didn't fuck your pov I actually agree on it !
Quote:Being mocked only means you got offended. "Social terrorism" is when you bully people into submission out of ego and fear of being wrong. Human rights are a given, but ideas, be they political religious or business models do not deserve blind value or taboos.
There are really oppressed humans in the world. Minority Muslims living under other Muslims, Christians, Jews, gays and atheist who ARE really oppressed depending where in the world they live. But if you are in a place where you are not forced to partake, and your government is not arresting you for making any claim on any subject, and someone is merely blasting it, YOU ARE NOT being bullied. It would merely mean you got your claim picked on.
It might be wise for those who thing blasphemy is a crime to talk to people who actually have been victims of mobs and government before they complain here in the west.
Mocking others is a type of that !
and again, if I mocked the idea of homosexuality for example, it will be a total different case.
The types of oppression you spoke about (which I'm going through btw) are not social terrorism, they are a crime against humanity. Yet, the mocking isn't actually better.
Heck, go see what bullying & mocking does to people, some turn into twisted motherfuckers and go on killing rampages. It is a nasty habit, that doesn't differ a lot from being a crime against yourself before it becomes a crime against others..
Mocking is a type of bullying -__-. Do you remember that fat kid in school who committed suicide ?
FatAndFaithless
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No it is not. Our species goes about civility the wrong way and confuses blasphemy with bullying. It is precisely because people protect their egos instead of self introspection that criticism and blasphemy are needed.
EXAMPLE
This is not bullying.
Person A "The New York Yankees won the Superbowl".
Person B. "Bullshit, the Yankees play baseball".
It only becomes bullying when you never allow the person to make the claim. It becomes bullying when the person making the claim has no way out of the situation. Now imagine that person A on top of making that absurd claim, decided to start a political party or religion based on the absurd claim "The Yankees won the Superbowl". Now imagine if that leader, political or religious forced you to never speak ill of such a claim. That society of Yankee lovers would bully anyone who didn't subscribe.
Now bullying does exist even in the west. It happens in the workplace and in schools, places people have no choice but to be. One comment in neutral place where people can part company is not bullying. It is when the behavior is repeated and the other has no way out. That goes with sexual harassment as well.
But merely saying "bullshit" is not a crime nor should it be. You do not help oppressed people in those places by insisting that insults are at the same level as being arrested by the state or murdered by a mob or murdered by the state.
None of what I said there is some sort of call to be a dick to others in every given situation 100% of your life. The problem with insisting no one every speak ill of others claims or beliefs is that everyone can think of a reason to silence others in this case. You cant do that because everyone has an idea of what is offensive and if you give that power to a political party or a religion, they can turn around and silence you.
I am glad Susan B offended White Christian men by refusing to fit their social norms. I am glad Galileo offended the Church. I am glad former Muslim Ayaan Hersi Ali offended sexist Muslim men.
If you allow other people to set up taboos you are giving them power over you. Common law dictates in the west that we cannot act out in violence or call to violence. But no one has a right to decide for everyone what is offensive. PC is a very dangerous game for all parties involved. "Bullying" can only depend on the context of the situation.
