Objective evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ?

[pocaracas]

I knew I didn't want to come into this thread for a reason.... same old.... same old...

Yes, there probably was some sort of historical figure that inspired some of the tales that have been attributed to Jesus, in the bible.
It's even possible that more than one such figure's lives served as inspiration for the Jesus myth.

- The magician has parallels with the yogi from India: http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/...42926.html - "no props or tricks", huh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvYkRzpq4g
Possibly, the Jesus myth of walking on water and turning water into wine was just a few of the typical illusions used at the time...
I have nothing on the multiplication of food.

- The political figure that angered the established jewish authority may come from the Teacher of Righteous:

The Teacher of Righteousness (in Hebrew: מורה הצדק Moreh ha-Tzedek) is a figure found in some of the Dead Sea Scrolls at Qumran, most prominently in the Damascus Document.[1] This document speaks briefly of the origins of the sect, probably Essenes, 390 years after the Babylonian exile and after 20 years of 'groping' blindly for the way. "God... raised for them a Teacher of Righteousness to guide them in the way of His heart".[2]

The Teacher is extolled as having proper understanding of the Torah, qualified in its accurate instruction,[3] and being the one through whom God would reveal to the community “the hidden things in which Israel had gone astray”.[4]

Note how this description also fits quite well with Mohamed.

Michael O. Wise posits that the Teacher of Righteousness was the "first messiah", a figure predating Jesus by roughly 100 years.[9] This figure - who Wise believes was named Judah - rose to prominence during the reign of Alexander Jannaeus, and had been a priest and confidant to the king. However, he became dissatisfied with the religious sects in Jerusalem, and in reaction, founded a "crisis cult". While amassing a following, the Teacher (and his followers) claimed he was the fulfillment of various Biblical prophecies, with an emphasis on those found in Isaiah. The Teacher was eventually killed by the religious leadership in Jerusalem, and his followers hailed him as messianic figure who had been exalted to the presence of God's throne. They then anticipated that the Teacher would return to judge the wicked and lead the righteous into a golden age, and that it would take place within the next forty years. Wise explains that dating of manuscript copies among the Dead Sea Scrolls shows that the Teacher's postmortem following drastically increased in size over several years, but that when the predicted return and golden age failed to materialize, his following dissipated rapidly.

Sounds familiar, no?

Could Marcion have revived this "old" cult?
Could Paul have also tapped into this?

But it goes a bit further:

Richard A. Freund writes "The difference of opinion over the positioning of the Teacher of Righteousness leads me to conclude that perhaps all of these researchers are correct. A Teacher of Righteousness did lead the group in the second century BCE when it was established. Another Teacher of Righteousness led the sect in the first century BCE and finally another Teacher emerged in the first century CE."

3 different teachers... 3 different messiahs... 3 different people, all contributing with one extra piece of myth... Maybe culminating in the Jesus person. Maybe the early church found it easier to convince people if all the tales from the 3 were joined in one only person... one god, 3 persons... isn't that what they keep saying?

Maybe.