RE: Is Islam more or less violent in Its teachings then other religions?
June 7, 2015 at 5:03 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2015 at 5:03 pm by Dystopia.)
(June 7, 2015 at 9:27 am)Yeauxleaux Wrote: In doctrine alone, exactly the same. Save for some difference in core belief (important prophets, holy trinity or one God, etc etc) Christianity and Islam are basically the same religion. They promote the same values and Basic messages. Both promote misogynistic patriarchy and are obsessed with women and sex (or suppression of it), both have historically condones slavery and war on "heretics", both promote the idea of spreading the word of the religion to non-believers. Medieval Europe was frighteningly similar to the modern Middle East, they are the same culture.
The only reason Christianity is in soup kitchens instead of inquisition courts today is because secularism has stripped away its power. This hasn't happened with Islam.
I think the middle east talk is confusing because it is a so vast place. Israel is not the same as Palestine and Palestine is not the same as Saudi, etc. If you mean Saudi, yeah I agree - I would add that secularism itself was supported by Christians and some religious people; in fact, in theory secularism was forced and implemented after the French revolution during a time when the majority of people were still Christian.
Quote:I also think its irrelevant what the Bible or the Quran teach. You can argue that the Quran is not misogynistic until the cows come home, it doesnt change the fact that, under "Islamic Law", women in Iran have acid thrown in their faces for being improperly veiled.
"But Iran isn't real Islam" ok why you telling me? I would say go tell Khamenei that. But guess what if you try telling him that he is un-Islamic, you'll be the one hung in central Tehran on charges of blasphemy.
Sorry for double posting btw I'm on my phone and this forum really isnt mobile friendly at all.
I agree with everything posted, but it goes both ways - Like Reza Aslan said, anyone who calls himself X is X and we should believe them. Feminist, queer lesbian Muslims are real Muslims, are so are oppressive wealthy sexist men. Btw, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe some veils like the Burqa are actually illegal in Iran (I have no problem with hijabs at all)
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