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Let's get the fact's straight
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RE: Let's get the fact's straight
(July 7, 2015 at 8:23 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: It's regard is for all life, not just human or animal.

If we had everything we wanted we would be useless and lazy and even more fucked than we are now.

Praying for things to get better in your personal situation is selfish and wrong. By asking for only direction in life and guidance, or for things like patience, and understanding should be about as selfish as it should get.
Modern conveniences-
If everyone was United under God there would be faster advancement in technology due to the lack of a worldwide religious barrier.

Stable societal constructs.- are you serious? Society is completely fragmented, and different through the world and way fucked up. The opposite of stable.

Modern day society- again completely off beat from nature and teaching our young how to live without meaning, and in blatent indifference to natural wrongs.

No, please keep going.

Spiritual development is the supposed to be the REAL basis for religion in that we are taught to be less selfish and more giving for a better world for everyone in theory. In practice it is too often used as a means of control over others and advancment of the individual instead of what was originaly intended. Christian, Islam, Hindu, even Budhism can be abused and has been.
For this reason having just one faith uniting us wont stop the ambitious from doing what they have always done. They would just disguise it as God's will.
Science has certainly been advanced by the religiuos but remember most people were religious because they have little choice. They were raised that way and in many cases to not be Christian in 16th century Europe or not muslem in the ottoman empire ment certain death and monks of said faiths often had more time than the farmers to study and experiment. However it has been made clear by the pope that science is great as long as it doesn't delve into the realm of God. No genetic testing, no exploring the origin of the universe, nothing that might otherwise cast doubt on God can be studied. Steven Hawkings would have a hard time with this.
While it is true that a community that has one faith tends to stick together well, due to the ease at which religion can manipulated by a clever person great acts of evil can be justified. I dont want that and will fight it to the end.
I agree that modern society should also teach philosophy as a way of helping the student understand themselves so as to enrich life. However, it is clear that the Bible teaches us that we are horrible poeple at birth and are totaly unworthy of the creators love unless we obey the right conditions. As is said by the Dali Lama "the diference is that the Christian focus is pointed away to some where else the budhist focus points within."
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Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 7, 2015 at 2:12 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Longhorn - July 7, 2015 at 2:33 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by ignoramus - July 7, 2015 at 2:58 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by robvalue - July 7, 2015 at 3:37 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Longhorn - July 7, 2015 at 3:52 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by KevinM1 - July 7, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by robvalue - July 7, 2015 at 3:55 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by ignoramus - July 7, 2015 at 4:16 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 7, 2015 at 8:23 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by loganonekenobi - July 7, 2015 at 9:06 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Cato - July 7, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 7, 2015 at 9:27 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Iroscato - July 7, 2015 at 8:43 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by robvalue - July 7, 2015 at 8:47 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 7, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 7, 2015 at 10:49 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 7, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Pyrrho - July 7, 2015 at 1:05 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 7, 2015 at 1:17 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 7, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 8, 2015 at 2:50 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Foxaèr - July 8, 2015 at 2:51 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 7, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 7, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Minimalist - July 7, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 7, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 7, 2015 at 6:02 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 7, 2015 at 7:01 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 7, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 7, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 7, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Pyrrho - July 7, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 7, 2015 at 11:56 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Pyrrho - July 8, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by robvalue - July 8, 2015 at 1:26 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 8, 2015 at 11:58 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 8, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Cyberman - July 8, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Pyrrho - July 8, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Longhorn - July 8, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Drich - July 8, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Cyberman - July 8, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 8, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Pyrrho - July 8, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Excited Penguin - July 8, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 8, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Pyrrho - July 8, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 8, 2015 at 3:03 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Spooky - July 8, 2015 at 3:13 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 8, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Pyrrho - July 8, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by LostLocke - July 8, 2015 at 3:53 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Rhondazvous - July 9, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 10, 2015 at 1:57 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 8, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Pyrrho - July 8, 2015 at 4:21 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 8, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 8, 2015 at 4:58 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 8, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Spooky - July 8, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 8, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 8, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Cyberman - July 8, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 8, 2015 at 7:06 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 8, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 8, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 8, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 8, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 9, 2015 at 6:56 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 9, 2015 at 7:17 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by popsthebuilder - July 9, 2015 at 7:38 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by LostLocke - July 9, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by dyresand - July 9, 2015 at 4:49 pm
RE: Let's get the fact's straight - by Rhondazvous - July 9, 2015 at 10:19 am

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