(September 8, 2015 at 8:49 am)abaris Wrote:(September 8, 2015 at 8:22 am)strawdawg Wrote: What I actually was wondering when I started this thread was as an Atheist you believe there is no afterlife, when you're dead you're dead...right? Okay wouldn't that make life more precious, more valuable knowing you only go down this road once.
Well, you got your answer to that. That there is no consensus between atheists. And that's what most of us try to hammer into the heads of theists right from the beginning. The only common denominator is the absence of belief.
And also "into the heads of" people who've been atheist activists for 20 years, and yet didn't get The Memo™ that atheism is defined simply as lack of belief in god(s), since there's no other way to employ that terminology or to describe general views of people who have rejected popular god-beliefs as plausible explanations of reality. Apparently.
Because it's really really really important that people understand that humans are individuals and won't all agree, and atheists are humans.
Because that's not in any way related to the No True Scotsman game the Christians like to play when we point out their general views on various subjects.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
