Abortion is love

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Thanks for the replies everyone No one has convinced me of a good reason to not kill your own babies, but I appreciate them trying. To me, the best and most honest reason is that it's betting everything on Christianity all being true. If actually it isn't, you just killed your baby for no reason. I'd be interested if anyone would admit to enough doubt to simply keep them from doing this.

Shining Finger: I was only kidding about posting this on a Christian forum, sorry! I'd most likely get instantly banned. I don't think I could hack being on one anyway.

Kingpin: I appreciate the answer but I didn't properly understand it. In your case at least, would it be fair to say that you wouldn't kill your child simply because there is reasonable doubt that they would actually go to heaven? I agree, having kids is a totally selfish action. There is no requirement at all. To then risk them going to hell so you can enjoy having them on this planet seems wrong to me. I wouldn't bring a kid into this world anyway because it's shit enough already; add in the possibility of hell and I'd never ever touch it with a barge pole.

Sure this life has good parts. But if people really believed what they say they believe about heaven, this life is 0% of your existence, and 0% enjoyable compared to the rest of your existence. It comes down to these numbers: you're risking that 100% enjoyment going down to 0% (plus torture!) enjoyment for 100% of their life, for the sake of 0% of 0% relative enjoyment.

Won2b: That's the even more stupid thing, no one has dislodged my logic in the slightest, so yes this is a major win for the child. The fact that God will turn around and call the best thing you can do for them murder shows the whole system is arse fucked. You could call it end justifying the means, sure. But the stakes are so high it seems ridiculous to take any other course of action if you really believe what you say you believe. The fact that people won't even consider this form of action is lots of evidence that they have reasonable doubts at least.

People want to believe this stuff, and maybe they convince themselves they do believe it. But actions, baby. Actions speak the loudest.

GC didn't tell me what happens to murdered babies, did he? Or did I miss or? Or actually address my points at all.

PS: Let me make an analogy. You're about to sit down to a massive meal, with thousands of courses. You have two options:

1) Start at the first main course. All your courses, including this first one, are guaranteed to be perfectly delicious.

2) Have a starter first. The starter isn't nearly as good as the main courses, in fact there will be horrible bits in it too. Also, if you have the starter, there's a good chance that the rest of the thousands of following courses will all be absolutely disgusting but you must eat them anyway. Or they might all be delicious as in choice 1.

Which would you chose? Which would you want a friend to choose for you, if the choose had to be made on your behalf?