(September 17, 2015 at 2:18 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:(September 16, 2015 at 8:42 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: None of what you have written above has ANYTHING to do with the doctrine of infallibility.
No, what I demonstrated is that your church is fallible. Your church argued that the Earth does not orbit the Sun. It argued against what is a physical fact. That really puts a kink in its "infallibility". I don't care about your indoctrination; I don't care what you think. History shows that the Catholic Church got it wrong, and that renders your "doctrine" of an infallible church nugatory.
You can either argue against your own church's records, or you can argue against physics; that choice is yours, the leisure of shooting it down is mine.
I understand what you're saying, PT. But what we refer to when we say "Church doctrine" are official matters of faith and morals. That's the only part of the Church that is "infallible." The earth being the center of the universe was never official Church doctrine.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
