French Terror Attacks, scores dead

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Atlas, we've jousted on here before, but for the main part, I agree with most fo what you have said here......apart from this.  I can assure you that the IS jihadists are more than capable of this type of attack.....the planning and coordination are being well over played in the media.....8 gunman, in a capital city, strapped with suicide belts, would be disappointed with the death toll.  I say this with a heavy heart and in no way meant to disrespect aanyone here, but this attack has all the hallmarks of a Jihadist attack.

3 suicide bombers outside Stad-de-Paris with no casualties and 80,000 people inside?  Come on, this was amateurish.

You question them getting their rifles past security?  Which security?  The non-existent security on the borders?  Or the "security" on the door at the Bataclan?  We're talking Friday night bouncers here, unarmed and on a measly wage.  Think about it.

You keep asking about the "security?"  I'm not entirely sure what you are expecting?  The streets covered in armed police and Bomb disposal units at every corner?

The questions should not be directed at the forces on the ground, for what they were, they should be directed at the intelligence services.  A ball was dropped, big time... there is no way an attack like this remains totally radio silent in the staging week before the attack...no way.

Playing the blame game is pure deflection at this point though......those cowardly fucks are the only ones to blames, if there is a God, may he fu(k them in the ass for all eternity.

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My experience with Jihadists comes from where I live; I live in the Middle East.  I'm very close to the turmoil of Syria and Iraq.

I actually expect something like that at an international concert; at least a metal detector at the door. 
What we saw in Paris is not what to be expected from a country "facing a global threat and fighting a war"; a country which was targeted before in the "Charlie Hebdo" incident.

I wouldn't say every corner; but the stadium and the concert; at least; that's not just for ISIS; that's for other lunatics who might commit something. We''re speaking Holland & Merkal. I expect a lot. Though I never visited Europe, I don't know how things are there.
In the Middle East, security gets so tight you don't even get to scratch. I thought it was the same outside. And hence the low capabilities of Middle Eastern countries.

Though I indeed blame the intelligence agencies too; but not for "not doing their job", but actually for doing it so nicely. 
My belief SofaKingHigh, is that ISIS is funded and even supported by many players in the international theater. Since the war on terror began, the war economy went sky-high, and saved many countries from going broke because of the economical crisis (which was expected a very long time ago btw).

ISIS came after 2008. What it simply did, is that it enriched a lot of countries that used them as an excuse to sell more arms. They even used them to smuggle oil in cheap prices (i.e stealing Syria's oil), and recently the increased their brutaities to force Syrians to flee to some countries in Europe (i.e provide a lot of cheap working hands that would work no matter what). All what ISIS did, was enough to delay the upcoming economical fall..read about it; it's predicted, 2008 was only the beginning. There will be other economical crashes.

I live in the Middle East. ISIS is not serious. A lot of Muslims hate its smell because of the killing. To be with them, you need to have a high sense of blood loving and sadism. Even if a Muslim "fanatic"; he/she doesn't want to see somebody behead somebody else and put their head on their bodies like a horror movie.

The command of ISIS is intelligence agencies from around the world; main suspects are the CIA & Mossad.
The foot soldiers, are psychopaths, gangsters, sometimes agents, and indeed : MUSLIM FANATICS. But why do we forget the Muslims who turned crazy after America or France or Nato took a piece of them in the previous wars ? one pound of flesh for each drop of oil. Drone attacks ?

For example, check the similiarties between ISIS and Saudi Arabia : on of the biggest allies of the west.
Then check the Mossad cells that speak arabic and practice severe brutalization in combat (Gaza war is an example).
Then check how the CIA supported Jihadists against the soviets.

I'm not blaming. But it's an evil world. Though the whole game is about the economy.