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Could atheist westerners, please explain?
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
The entire Third World is suffering, so why is it only Palestine people get emotional over? Yeah, it's very bad in Palestine, but there are billions more suffering. People in my country, I understand that many struggle to find sympathy because there are some who suffer here too; every time I see a beggar it reminds of the broken system that we have.

But they need to understand, obviously, that their suffering is nothing compared to the Third World. I agree, more has to be done, even though the odds are stacked against us. At least Europe has been willing to resettle some refugees though. Gulf Cooperation Council is richer than many European Union countries, but they continue to do very little, and they don't have much to say on Palestine either, as far as I'm aware.

The United States continues to support those Fascist dictators because it has certainly lost its way. Today if you tell them Jesus was once a refugee and that he was from "Brown Land", their heads will explode. On the Statue of Liberty there are the lines of the poem The New Colossus:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

It makes me think of all of the people making the dangerous trip across the Mediterranean. I cry every time I see those words. I stand with you, opposed to all of this foolish oppression. It makes me angry too. But there people that need to be blamed are not some random "Atheist Westerners".

Atheists are oppressed too, especially in the Third World, but even in some rich countries. There are some states in the United States that ban Atheists from public office (even though it's against the constitution). But that's nothing compared to the Third world, because at least they're allowed to live. Atheists get killed and beaten down all the time in the Third World. Like that Nigerian man who was sent to a mental asylum simply because he did not want to believe, or those Bangladeshi bloggers who were decapitated.

We Atheists value life because we don't know what will happen when we die. This may be the only life. No reincarnation or afterlife. Why would we life this life to the full if there is an afterlife? al-Saud must think Palestine is not worth fighting for because they'll go to Jannah anyway.

There are people who think just like that, even if al-Saud doesn't. Like those Christian who say that we should not look after the environment because, they say, "only got can change the climate, so it's not the fault of the humans". People have been waiting for the End Times for centuries, and they keep convincing themselves: "It's this time for sure".

It is very saddening that the the Third World is in the state that it's in. And it's very easy to forget about that when we have all of these luxuries. I try my best to educate friends and family, and indeed members of this forum, because it's the least that I can do. But, sadly, there is no big appetite for change and people are quite happy to go along with the exploitation of exploitation of the Third World.

If you look at the Gulf, they are much more wasteful than many Western countries. Dubai is full of vanity projects, and Saudi even tried to sabotage the Paris Climate Talks. And they both refuse to let go of the evil Kafalah System, which exploits Third World people. That is how little they care about the Third World. All of the resources spent on their vanity projects could put to better use quenching the thirst of the Third World. It's not just the fault of "the West".

Remember, we are united against imperialism, the forces of al-Saud and those of the Twelve Imams at least. I am not going to dispute the verses that you showed me. I see no point.

It is fairly obvious nukes were used against Japan to try and impress the Soviets and nothing else. The Allies were wining the war, and it ended up killing more people, I suspect, than if they make it to the shore of Honshu. Nuclear fission can be force for good in the fight against climate change, even if the Manhattan Project mostly resulted in bad things.

What I said was that research usually has unintended benefits. They used ICBMs to put humans into space initially. Niel Armstrong took his first trip into space on an ICBM. The technology has evolved obviously, but they helped to start the Space Race because some people had the bright idea of replacing the warhead with a capsule for human transportation.


That's I have for now.

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Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 19, 2016 at 2:50 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - February 19, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 21, 2016 at 3:18 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 21, 2016 at 3:56 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by LastPoet - February 19, 2016 at 2:58 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by AFTT47 - February 19, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Gawdzilla - February 19, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Nay_Sayer - February 19, 2016 at 4:38 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 19, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 19, 2016 at 4:06 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by brewer - February 19, 2016 at 4:12 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by pocaracas - February 19, 2016 at 5:29 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Minimalist - February 19, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Crossless1 - February 19, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by brewer - February 19, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by ignoramus - February 19, 2016 at 7:49 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by GUBU - February 20, 2016 at 6:03 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 23, 2016 at 8:46 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by GUBU - February 23, 2016 at 4:25 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 23, 2016 at 4:41 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by GUBU - February 24, 2016 at 10:12 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 20, 2016 at 3:27 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by GUBU - February 20, 2016 at 6:00 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 21, 2016 at 4:12 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 21, 2016 at 4:19 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 21, 2016 at 4:20 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Cato - February 21, 2016 at 7:33 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by J a c k - February 21, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 21, 2016 at 2:35 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 23, 2016 at 9:41 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by pocaracas - February 23, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 23, 2016 at 1:36 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 23, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 23, 2016 at 2:13 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 24, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 25, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Ben Davis - February 26, 2016 at 9:37 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by RobbyPants - February 24, 2016 at 8:55 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 24, 2016 at 9:15 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Ben Davis - February 24, 2016 at 9:25 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 24, 2016 at 9:29 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 24, 2016 at 11:02 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Joods - February 24, 2016 at 11:16 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 24, 2016 at 12:17 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 26, 2016 at 1:12 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 26, 2016 at 7:37 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by pocaracas - February 26, 2016 at 8:25 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - February 26, 2016 at 9:10 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Ben Davis - February 29, 2016 at 9:59 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 26, 2016 at 9:50 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 26, 2016 at 11:01 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Ben Davis - February 26, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Crossless1 - February 26, 2016 at 11:43 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 26, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by ignoramus - February 28, 2016 at 2:40 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 26, 2016 at 11:09 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - February 26, 2016 at 9:18 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - February 26, 2016 at 9:30 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Joods - February 26, 2016 at 11:51 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2016 at 12:42 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by scoobysnack - February 27, 2016 at 12:59 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by GUBU - February 27, 2016 at 5:56 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 27, 2016 at 6:26 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by GUBU - February 27, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 28, 2016 at 2:36 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 27, 2016 at 6:37 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 27, 2016 at 5:42 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 28, 2016 at 2:11 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 28, 2016 at 2:32 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 28, 2016 at 2:38 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 28, 2016 at 2:50 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 28, 2016 at 3:23 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by ignoramus - February 28, 2016 at 3:47 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 28, 2016 at 4:04 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by pocaracas - February 28, 2016 at 4:30 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by ReptilianPeon - February 28, 2016 at 8:22 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 29, 2016 at 8:41 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 29, 2016 at 8:52 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 28, 2016 at 11:02 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by WinterHold - February 29, 2016 at 8:39 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 29, 2016 at 8:50 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by robvalue - February 29, 2016 at 4:53 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Cato - February 29, 2016 at 7:10 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Brian37 - February 29, 2016 at 8:02 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - March 1, 2016 at 10:34 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by GUBU - March 1, 2016 at 9:20 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Drich - March 1, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Drich - March 1, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - March 1, 2016 at 12:02 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - March 2, 2016 at 10:20 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Drich - March 2, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - March 2, 2016 at 10:32 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Drich - March 2, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - March 2, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Drich - March 2, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - March 2, 2016 at 12:45 pm
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by Drich - March 1, 2016 at 11:27 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - March 2, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain? - by abaris - March 2, 2016 at 12:05 pm

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