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Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe
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RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe
(April 17, 2016 at 7:17 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: I heard this island transfer between Egypt and Saudi says a lot about M.E.. Why isn't Israel concerned about a country that finances people that want to wipe them off the map? Does Israel hate Secular/Communist Palestinians that much?

It was over years ago. This region is no more than a backyard that is being cut like a cake; it all began after WW1. 100 years should not be enough to wipe the fact of that the East -Ottoman Empire- was at war with the West -Led by the British Empire-; a war that the East lost.

This is just how the M.E is; a farm that is being cut like a cake between men of power. We -the citezens- get to pay for complicated procedures, complex and useless systems and regulations, forceful siezing of personal wealth for the sake of filling the pockets of dictators and fund the dirty projects in the region.

Don't bet on Saudi Arabia being against Israel.






This is the Saudi general; Anwar Eshki.
Saudia is not Israel's enemy, MNMP. realize that.

Wahhabies are only a threat against Islam itself. They pose a danger only on us Muslims. They are the best thing Israel could ever wish for. 
While Israelis build nuclear reactors, manufacture guns, and turn deserts into gardens, Wahhabies sit and discuss "al Mahdi", and about wheather women should travel with a male spouse or not.

Saudies are the best allies for Israel. and they keep drugging Muslims and destroying Islam by supporting wahhabies, until everybody turns atheist.
More of anwar eshki:





Saudi Arabia is officially declaring its alliance with Israel.
It's not a conspeiracy theory anymore.


Quote:They ask these Wahaabi-Salafi types on the television about Saudi sometimes. They make up all sorts of excuses and lies. Such as (to cite a few): "Saudi doesn't represent me", "more Saudi women are going to university than ever before", "Saudi doesn't have true Sharia" or "You're a bigot for saying Saudi is a terrible country". Why is that a Shiite or an Ibaḍiyya can criticize Buhkari (and, well,, Wahaabi-Salafi Barbarism in general) and not be called "Islamophobe" but if I do there's a risk I will be called an "Islamophobe"?

Probably, like you've said before, many Arabs are racist so they view alcohol as this Western thing. Like how Richard Nixon banned Heroin because he wanted to control the Africans living the United States or how Opium was banned when lots of people from the Sinosphere started going to the United States. The Arab countries probably ban Hashish because they don't like those goofy Sufis.

Many of them work with the Saudi intelligence agencies, btw. I'm not comfortable writing this here, but the cards are all exposed now, so no point of hiding.
Wahhabies/Salafies are well known to have 2 types:

1-Fanatics; like the ones invaded the grand mosque
2-Agents and spies, like ISIS and this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamad_al-Arefe

The agents are zionists to the core, what they do is literally building the road towards the middle east of "Anwar Eshki" and Israel.

To win a war, there is no such ally better than an inside man, who goes around wearing the enemy's skin, and commiting every possible disaster in the enemy's name. 
Wahhabies are that inside man. 


Quote:I think it's so that Western countries can't ban or deport them. Saudi realized that many of the "scholars" that they fund were getting banned from a lot of Western countries so they had to create some "homegrown" ones. There is a long list of big name Wahaabi-Salafis in the English speaking countries. It's also forced Wahaab-Salafis to embrace modern technology, something which they didn't want to do, because it helps to spread their messages. 

As an example, Bilal Phillips was banned from Kenya.

Since so many countries have banned him, when he went to Kenya before being banned he was 'forced' to fly back on a private jet because commercial airlines wouldn't take him. .These are the same people that whine about how much the Ummah is suffering and they spend money on private jets. All of the money these so-called “scholars” hoard for themselves by giving incoherent speeches around the world could be used to lessen the suffering of the Ummah. But money for Dawah is apparently more important than even the Palestinians.

Well, tell me about where ISIS gets its warriors from; you assert my doubts, ISIS for example has so many western-born Muslims in its ranks, all looking like the Wahhabi stuffed with whey protein -the one you brought me his video-, that is what they do in the west.

These guys are funded, organized, and have agendas. I always wonder how they get visas so easy, traveling to the west is so hard, I know because my generation always considered taking a certificate from the outside, we asked, it was harsh, but wahhabies fly back and forth so easily. Some even go to Syria, fight there, then return safely. WTF????

He'll speak about the "Umma's pains", just as an excitement speech that adds and emotional perspective, in the brainwashing of the new terrorists.

About that video, well the only comment I will make, is this:

Sura 2
( 219 )   They ask you about wine and gambling. Say, "In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit." And they ask you what they should spend. Say, "The excess [beyond needs]." Thus Allah makes clear to you the verses [of revelation] that you might give thought.

Again, why do Muslims ignore the Quran?
If one speaks in the name of God, One should not date to cross the verses of God.

Alcohol has benefits, but the damage of it is bigger. Of course it was proved; so, let's avoid it, or if we we would to ever use it, we should use it with moderation?


Quote:All good points. Nothing really to say here. The Quran has nothing to say on Hadith. People who use Hadith are admiting the Quran isn't clear isn't clear enough for them. So they need somebody to hold their hand all of the time, like a parent to their baby, whilst they read Quran.


It mentioned though how Judaism and Christianity were forged before: they were forged through what is similiar to the hadith.
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Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Minimalist - April 14, 2016 at 10:01 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2016 at 10:13 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 14, 2016 at 10:33 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 16, 2016 at 2:32 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by ReptilianPeon - April 15, 2016 at 3:13 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 16, 2016 at 3:50 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by ReptilianPeon - April 16, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 17, 2016 at 3:13 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by ReptilianPeon - April 17, 2016 at 7:17 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 17, 2016 at 6:08 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 15, 2016 at 9:07 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 16, 2016 at 3:56 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Mister Agenda - April 15, 2016 at 10:58 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Goosebump - April 16, 2016 at 2:43 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 16, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 16, 2016 at 5:50 pm
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RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 16, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 16, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 16, 2016 at 6:27 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 16, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 16, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 17, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 17, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 17, 2016 at 7:52 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 17, 2016 at 5:22 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by ReptilianPeon - April 17, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 18, 2016 at 1:18 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 17, 2016 at 8:18 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by robvalue - April 18, 2016 at 1:40 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 18, 2016 at 5:16 am
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RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 18, 2016 at 5:30 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 18, 2016 at 9:36 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 18, 2016 at 2:59 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 19, 2016 at 6:34 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by robvalue - April 18, 2016 at 5:33 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 18, 2016 at 7:29 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 24, 2016 at 8:13 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by robvalue - April 18, 2016 at 5:56 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by robvalue - April 18, 2016 at 10:14 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 18, 2016 at 11:01 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 18, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by robvalue - April 18, 2016 at 11:06 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 18, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 18, 2016 at 12:17 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by robvalue - April 18, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Simon Moon - April 18, 2016 at 5:02 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 18, 2016 at 5:43 pm
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RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 18, 2016 at 10:59 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by TubbyTubby - April 19, 2016 at 2:08 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by robvalue - April 19, 2016 at 2:13 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 19, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 20, 2016 at 1:20 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 19, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 19, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 19, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 19, 2016 at 4:51 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 19, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 20, 2016 at 7:40 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by robvalue - April 20, 2016 at 1:22 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 20, 2016 at 1:29 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 20, 2016 at 7:58 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 20, 2016 at 10:15 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 20, 2016 at 11:16 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 20, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 20, 2016 at 11:33 am
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RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 20, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 20, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 20, 2016 at 1:35 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by WinterHold - April 21, 2016 at 2:46 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 21, 2016 at 6:00 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by robvalue - April 21, 2016 at 6:02 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 21, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by ReptilianPeon - April 21, 2016 at 8:04 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 21, 2016 at 8:23 am
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by MysticKnight - April 24, 2016 at 6:50 pm
RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Brian37 - April 24, 2016 at 8:22 pm
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RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe - by Goosebump - April 25, 2016 at 4:49 am
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