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Problems understanding naturalistically the beginning of the universe
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RE: Problems understanding naturalistically the beginning of the universe
(May 2, 2016 at 6:56 am)The_Empress Wrote:
(May 2, 2016 at 5:59 am)Wryetui Wrote: You mean, why do I believe that, right? I believe that because God has told us so through His prophets in the Old Testament and through the saints of the New Covenant until today, what we would call, Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

No, I mean what evidence do you have that what you stated is true?

The universe and, as a consequence, our world. I have seen that the world around us is perfectly designed, everything follows its course and animals are machineries with a complexity that is beyond doubt. It is not possible for me that everything that exists exists by chance, the odds are against this possibility. The possibility that my hands, which are perfectly moving the fingers that with scrupulosity are typing a reply in this forum. If I happen to encounter, by chance, the Mona Lisa on the street my first thought would be that the hands that painted it and the mind that conceived it is not only great, but magnanimous. I do not accept Thoma's theology in its entirety, but, as he would say:
  • Some things are caused.
  • Everything that is caused is caused by something else.
  • An infinite regress of efficient (simultaneous) causation is impossible.
  • Therefore, there must be an uncaused cause of all that is caused.
  • This cause, everyone calls God.
This is called natural revelation. In other words, we live in a world, this world had to be caused (created) by something, this something is God. I do not accept any of the other accounts of scientific speculation to whether the life emerged from a primordial soup or from the outer space or whatever else because this is just speculation, and these speculations appear just because there cannot be accepted that this a being exists because there would be consequences for it, and there is a strong commitment to materialism at this moment by a large part of the scientific community, as Richard Lewontin a geneticist and self-proclaimed marxist would say: "Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.".

However, natural revelation is not enough, this can only tell that there is a God, but offers no information about what or who this God is. This is where supernatural revelation. God revealed to the prophets of the Old Testament and not only, God entered into space and time to save us from what our protoparents did and its consequences, so we had God among us. And He established a Church a continued to fill this Church with Himself, with the Holy Spirit and we have thousands of saints that prove that God is real by their life in Him througout history.
"Let us commit ourselves and one another and our whole life to Christ, our God"
 - Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom

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RE: Problems understanding naturalistically the beginning of the universe - by Wryetui - May 2, 2016 at 8:05 am

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