(December 24, 2016 at 8:38 am)Little Rik Wrote:(December 19, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(December 19, 2016 at 9:04 pm)Little Rik Wrote:Which of the above "I said" bullshit is supposed to be evidence?(December 19, 2016 at 8:08 pm)Tonus Wrote: LOL. So that is your approach, then... to ignore it and pretend it didn't provide the evidence you asked for. I will note yet again that you did not provide any evidence to the contrary while first demanding evidence and then demanding "real" and "solid" and "undisputed" evidence. This from someone who thinks a book and website cataloging NDE experiences is evidence of karma and of the existence of a soul.
I realize you'll just ignore this and spew more garbage, but I just wanted to point it out one last time. That's who you are, Rik.
Evidence to the contrary Ton?
Lol.
If you only would have read what I did write recently you would have plenty of evidence to the contrary.
1) I said that something material-physical such as the brain can not give birth to something a lot more subtle and evolved as the consciousness.
2) Nothing in your link point to any solid evidence.
They are all opinions.
3) To understand what the consciousness is all about you got to leave the physical reality and get deep into the subconscious mind and that is mainly possible by PRACTICING intuitional science or yoga meditation although there are other ways possible but those ways takes for ever.
4) The consciousness is like an iceberg.
The above part show only little while the part under show everything.
By studying the physical phenomena you can only study the above that is why all those so called philosophers and scholars are unable to get into the subconscious mind.
1) Even demented idiots know that the brain is made of matter while the consciousness is an abstract reality.
This is 100% evidence yog.
From here the conclusion is only one and that is that something less evolved can not possibly give birth to something more evolved.
More like 100% bollocks. All you are doing is asserting your conclusion that consciousness cannot be a product of the brain. That's not providing evidence to the contrary, that's just begging the question. And now you've doubled down on this stupidity. Way to go, airhead.
(December 24, 2016 at 8:38 am)Little Rik Wrote: 2) Demented idiots also know that there is a known mind (conscious mind) and a hidden mind.
This is evident and apparent when the missing word or solution to the problem come in the known mind after an effort and that can only come from the subconscious mind or hidden mind.
3) Any idiot would tell you that to fix your leaking toilet you call a plumber not an electrician.
From here any idiot would understand that physical science can not possibly understand the subconscious mind.
You were asked to provide evidence that consciousness is not a product of the brain. Neither of these has anything to do with that proposition. You can claim that there is a special nature to consciousness such that it requires a different sort of expert until you're blue in the face, that's not providing evidence that it is special in the way you claim. You're just making bare assertions like usual.