RE: Is there objective Truth?
October 13, 2016 at 9:52 pm
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2016 at 9:55 pm by Soldat Du Christ.)
(October 13, 2016 at 9:44 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(October 13, 2016 at 9:33 pm)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: Just because you interpret everything through your life doesn't mean what you observe is subjective. It just means your observations are subjective. The point here is that regardless of wether or not we percieve somthing to be a certain way, it remains true to it's objective nature.
We have collectively developed methods to observe and test the perceptions of the world around us, that is how you know.
Would you agree with this sir?
Nope. A collection of subjective experiences, no matter how large the population, is not sufficient to establish objective Truth.
But I should qualify that. I think even subjective experiences can be objectively true IN CONTEXT. So whether we're in the Matrix or the Mind of God, it's objectively true that in the context of mundane life, there's an empty Vitamin Water bottle on my desk. It's objectively true that I'm experiencing certain things-- no matter what anyone's opinion, even mine, I can say that I hear sound, and see things.
A transcendent objective truth-- for example, about the reality of whatever might underlie the framework we live in (be it God or a fractal set of nested multiverses that stretches in all directions in infinite complexity or whatever)-- i.e. the CONTEXT set by living as a human being, cannot be known true by us, for pretty obvious reasons.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
You give up knowledge if you go down this route, and can't be reasoned with.
"Nope. A collection of subjective experiences, no matter how large the population, is not sufficient to establish objective Truth."
Even the context of your response was built off of the presupposition that what your saying IS in fact true! I mean do i even have to elaborate how absurd this is?
(October 13, 2016 at 9:47 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(October 13, 2016 at 9:10 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If the answer is no, isn't that an objective answer?
No. hehehehehe
It might be different if you said "absolutely no". But not really. See? It might be different if you said "absolutely no +1 more degree of no". But not really. See?
You're inventing your own language and logic at this point, and go agianst what's already been established. Yes, and no, are statements.
"a communication or declaration in speech or writing, setting forth FACTS, particulars, etc."
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/statement
