Updates on the election for those of us...

[GUBU]

There is no left in American politics. That's a big part of the problem.

The farthest left ye've gone since Eugene Debbs has been Bernie Sanders, who's pretty much an Edward Heath Tory, i.e. a moderate right winger who is willing to adopt left wing policies when he knows they work.

I'm not American.

I think it would be more accurate to say there isn't a left like we have in the UK (far too left now under the Trots) rather than no left per se. Compared to Bush Obama was much more 'left', but then again when we refer to these people on a spectrum as normatively defined the terms become more and more meaningless.

But other than that I would be in a broader agreement with you. Alas the US is too alien a political beast for me to form a proper narrative. This election shows that, to a large degree of people, central and perhaps 'left' leaning liberalism isn't important to them.

You think Labour are left wing? Not a fucking chance, the parliamentary party are still stuck in the sad delusion that aping Maggie the milk robber is the way for them to win elections. And even Jeremy Corbyn is only moderste left.

It's an indication how far to the right our political discourse has swung that a party that in major hock to big business with a leader who on most issues is only centre-left can be considered trotskyist now.